CMD SHRI GOPALJI SHEKHWAT SPEECH

इस परीक्षा की घडी में हम सब एन मार्ट परिवार के लोग श्री गोपाल जी शेखावत के साथ में है और रहेंगे भी सुख दुःख में साथ निभाने का वादा जो किया है.
अपने प्रिय गोपाल जी के लिए एक लाइन बोलना चाहूँगा.... 
"छोड़ेंगे न हम तेरा साथ ओ साथी मरते दम तक" 
जय एन मार्ट 

CMD SHRI GOPALJI SHEKHWAT SPEECH

इस परीक्षा की घडी में हम सब एन मार्ट परिवार के लोग श्री गोपाल जी शेखावत के साथ में है और रहेंगे भी सुख दुःख में साथ निभाने का वादा जो किया है.
अपने प्रिय गोपाल जी के लिए एक लाइन बोलना चाहूँगा.... 
"छोड़ेंगे न हम तेरा साथ ओ साथी मरते दम तक" 
जय एन मार्ट 

Iran, and the 120 nations that stand with them

In continuation of the article I posted this past Wednesday "Another piece of the Iran Puzzle",  Veterans Today Sr. Editor Gordon Duff put together another excellent article, highlighting the truth of Iran and Israel and the ridiculous warmongering that is being shouted across the US media and ranted about by certain politicians.

I will link you directly to the VT article as there are 7 videos embedded in the article for you to watch, but I'd like to post here the opening and closing for you to read.

Why Is Iran’s Ayatollah Saner than Mitt Romney?

Simple Truth from an Unexpected Source

Address At Non-Aligned Conference in Tehran a “Breath   

of Fresh Air”

By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

In Tehran, 120 nations got together, risking car bomb retaliation and the scorn of Mitt Romney and Sheldon Adelson to discuss why they think the UN is a cheap con and America and Israel are “full of it.”  The numbers of nations no longer willing to “kiss butt” is a smackdown for Israel more than America.

It is also a total “smackdown” for the UN, the pretend organization where 5 nations have total veto power over any real action.

....

What is the lesson?  Iran doesn’t stand alone, Israel does, abandoned even by American Jews.  That can change and should and the formula for it is being offered.  Look on what is suggested, the referendum as a beginning of negotiations.  Without justice there will be eternal war.  If Israel wants to fight it, let us correct our falsified and propagandized history first and then let properly informed and educated Americans of all faiths including “none of the above” make the decisions.

The issue should be humanity for all.  Today, the religious conflicts of the Middle East, not confined to just Jews and Muslims, it goes deeper, it goes back centuries, all need to be redressed.  I have issues about Christians and their rights, issues about the Kurds, about the Armenians, there is a thousand  years or more that has to be redressed, “de-propagandized” and replaced with peace and understanding.

Wars must end and those who sell them need to be punished, isolated from mankind like an incurable disease.

 Click HERE to go directly to the original article on Veterans Today

SO Updates for Aug 31 2012

SuspiciousObservers recorded two updates today due to the Philippines earthquake

Philippines earthquake Aug 31st 2012

Major 7.6 earthquake in the Philippines followed by a swarm of lesser earth quakes hit a few hours ago, but the Tsunami warning has been called off.

As usual, Dutchsinse has the goods.

8/31/2012 — 7.6 Magnitude earthquake strikes Philippines

August 31, 2012 by sincedutch

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc000cc5m.php

Earthquake Details

• This event has been reviewed by a seismologist.

MAGNITUDE	7.6
DATE-TIME	Friday, August 31, 2012 at 12:47:34 UTC Friday, August 31, 2012 at 08:47:34 PM at epicenter Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones
LOCATION	10.838°N, 126.704°E
DEPTH	34.9 km (21.7 miles)
REGION	PHILIPPINE ISLANDS REGION

Debt Forgiveness: It CAN be done

Debt Forgiveness.   It's not a term you'll hear the main stream media use.  It's not a term you'll hear the Banksters and Political Puppets use.  It's not a term that you'll hear the Cabal Controllers use.  Because the very idea of it shakes them right down to their blackened shrivelled up souls.

The mouth pieces of the Banksters will bluster and rant that debt forgiveness is impossible and that all debt must be paid by someone...

... but what if the debt owed is non-existent?  What if the debt is based on an illegal action?  What if the debt was created by entities that are performing illegal business transactions?   How can personal debts like mortgages and student loans be legally enforceable when we look at LIBOR, Derivatives, and the fact that almost all banks are under scrutiny for  negligence at the very least and gross criminal actions at the upper end of the scale?  ...and that's just what the main stream media IS reporting on!

Hidden from the public by the media controllers is a seething underworld of illicit money laundering, blatant theft left right and centre, and mobster dealings that would of made Al Capone faint dead away in shock. These criminal actions start right at the top with the Federal Reserve and Central Banks and various 3 letter agencies right down to the local level banks. 



When money is printed out of thin air, produced as an electronic entry on a computer somewhere, paid on an electronic computer somewhere and then sold to John Q Public to buy a house or an education, and then having the audacity to charge him interest on money that never existed in the first place, can you call this "legal"?  



When the Federal Reserve can make imaginary money to the tune of $16 TRILLION and uses that money to bailout not only their own banking cartel but foreign banks as well, for 0% interest for an indefinite "loan", yet demands that home owners pay back the imaginary money that was "lent" to them to buy their homes, while illegally creating ponzi schemes on those mortgages that will drive more banks and investors into bad debt, (while the banksters are paying them selves over $100 billion in bonuses) then taking those houses in foreclosure, even though many of the home owners have already paid back the amount of the original loan but now because of the housing bubble bursting their home is only worth half of what the original mortgage was for to begin with, can you really call this a "legal" transaction? 

(yes, that was one single sentence with an extreme use of the comma)

I'm not a financial analyst.  I'm not an economist, or money guru, but even I as a layman can look at this entire theatrical production and say "two thumbs down".

Back to Debt Forgiveness. 

The Banksters and their minions might pooh pooh the whole idea, but the fact is, it's been done before. 

Iceland has the right idea folks- dissolve the government, chuck the banksters, and politicians who are in bed with the banks, into jail and start all over.

... If all this debt is made from imaginary money, then why should anyone at any level have to pay it back?  Here me out for a moment.  If the world is drowning in imaginary debt, then where is all the money?  If the Federal Reserve is bankrupt (and it is), and the ECB is bankrupt (and it is) and whole countries are bankrupt (and they are), then where is the money? I'm not kidding- that actually is a very serious question. Where's the Beef? 

The following article, "A CASE FOR MORTGAGE DEBT FORGIVENESS: Norway Writes Down 90% Of Populations Mortgage Debt / When Debt Is Fraud / IMF: Debt Reduction Policies Work / Debt Jubilee – The Concept", contains a group of articles that outlines much of what I've talked about above and is a great jump off point to rethinking this ginormous mess.  The whole article is very long, but I will copy below some of the most important points in my opinion.

In 1997, Norway instituted Debt Forgiveness and “Wrote Down” 90% of the Countries Mortgage Debt.
It’s been done, documented, and completely hidden from the World, through the World Media, until 19 April 2012.
Complete and Total Censorship of anything Debt Forgiveness Related, World Wide.

Here is a link to radio Interview of a Lawyer from Norway instrumental in bringing Mortgage Debt Forgiveness to Norway.
[ Broadcast on: 19 April 2012
Morning Ireland: Conference on ways to tackle personal debt - Norwegian lawyer Egil Rokhaug ]

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Endgame: When Debt is Fraud, Debt Forgiveness is the Last and Only Remedy, by Zeus Yiamouyiannis, Ph.D., copyright 2011.

Introduction

Finally serious economists are considering a position I have been maintaining and writing about since the 2008 financial meltdown. Whatever its name— erasure, repudiation, abolishment, cancellation, jubilee—debt forgiveness, will have to eventually emerge forefront in global efforts to solve an ongoing systemic financial crisis.

“On a grand scale the only way to erase counterfeit money and (counterfeit) assets of hundreds of trillions of dollars is to erase the debts associated with those fake assets. (Let me underscore again, these are not “toxic” assets, they are fake assets.)… Forgiveness in general, and forgiveness of debt in particular, stand as virtues if they free us up to acknowledge, address, and learn from our culpability, start anew, and create forward.” (The Big Squeeze, Part 3: The Quiet Rebellion: Civil Disobedience, Local Markets, and Debt Erasure (January 29, 2011)

Debt forgiveness, therefore, accomplishes two important things. It eliminates the increasing and outsized portion of productive enterprise to pay off unproductive obligations, and it clears the ground for new opportunities, new thinking, invention, and entrepreneurialism. This is why the ability to declare bankruptcy is so essential in the pursuit of both happiness and innovation....

...

Default Swap Scam Works (October 13, 2008)

Systemically, all debt that charges a percentage (“usury”) originates in delusion. Debt grows exponentially indefinitely, growth (income and otherwise) cannot. This leads to a widening condition where the fruits of productive “growth” devoted to interest payments increase until those fruits are entirely consumed. (The Elephant In The Room: Debt Grows Exponentially, While Economies

Only Grow In An S-Curve (Washington’s Blog)

Once this happens, stores of wealth (hard assets) begin to be cannibalized to make up for the difference. You see this in Greece with its sale of public assets to private companies, and in middle-class America where people are liquidating retirement accounts to pay for their cost of living.

This problem is compounded by a private Federal Reserve that lends money into circulation at interest, and then allows the multiplication of this consumer debt-money liability through fractional reserve banking. The money in circulation today could pay only a small fraction of the total private and public debt. That fact alone is evidence of a kind of systemic fraud. “If you just work hard enough, save, and make sensible decisions, you can get out of debt” could only physically work for a bare fraction of the population, given the money-to-debt ratio. The rest would have to simply default to clear the boards.

This is why debt forgiveness makes not only moral but rational, mathematical sense. Finances require balancing to be coherent....

...

This possibility of epic reprisal may very well compel banks to come to the table around debt forgiveness to avoid violent backlash and criminal prosecution, even over preserving their gravy train companies. The bitter irony of these companies and their galloping greed is that they ended up victimizing each other by selling junk to each other and extracting all the real value in salary and bonuses. Their assets rest on notional values, that when unmasked would drive each into immediate insolvency. They have simply been scam artists, producing little value and extracting mountains of money.
What might this look like? Looking at present trends and using the very useful framework of Kubler-Ross’s stages of grief, it might go something like this…

Average debtor:

1) Denial: Liquidate savings to pay for over-priced house and cost of living.

2) Anger and fear: Exhaust resources, experience want, compounded by austerity measures.

3) Bargaining: Attempt to negotiate with bank through HAMP and other mechanisms to lower payments. Banks don ‘t bite and even
have incentives to foreclose.

4) Depression: Lose/default on the house and move in with family or cheap rental.

5) Find out life is better without being a debt slave and spend more time with community and the ones you love.
Bankers:

1) Denial: Collect 144 billion in bonuses after financial collapse and laugh as not a single trading day loss arises for zombie TBTF banks completely subsidized by governments.

2) Anger: Express false righteousness, indignation, and hubris over even modest/toothless demands/regulations attempted to be placed on them by governments. Exhibit sadistic zeal at being able to simply claim you own and liquidate properties they have no clear title to.

3) Bargaining: Experience dawning awareness that may have just cooked your own gooses as strategic defaults skyrocket, populist demands to prosecute fraudclosure gain traction, and quantitative easing ad infinitum dwindles and fails to keep stock prices artificially aloft. Improvise panicked attempts to “be reasonable” and actually negotiate, once the asset and money flow well runs dry.

4) Depression: Contemplate and realize possible bankruptcy by big banks. Retreat to the Hamptons to hire criminal defense lawyers, contemplate empty life, and shoulder the abuse of media and contempt of a global citizenry.

5) Acceptance: Trying to regain “good guy” status and avoid criminal prosecution by agreeing to be part of debt forgiveness.
Once defaults happen in increasing numbers and certain asset prices plunge (i.e. real estate), what will initially look like a bonanza for capitalist parasites could easily get out of hand, with people either unable or unwilling to buy inventory even at greatly reduced prices. Profits would tank at banks, liabilities would skyrocket even with most of it transferred to government guarantee. Because no one plays the game anymore, banks could go under as well, as people rise to vote out bank-friendly politicians and simply refuse to pay. This unraveling could easily force exposure of the notional value of derivatives in banks as worthless, meaning they are as bankrupt as the people they exploited. At this point, there will be a common desire and need to simply “forgive” the debts and try to find some way to distribute these empty homes.

Conclusion

Debt forgiveness simply calls out either the inherent systemic inability to make good on debts or the recognition that debt was produced through fraudulent means. In the present situation, both conditions obtain. There has likely been no point in world history where debt forgiveness has been so comprehensively merited. The only speculation from my point (barring world-wide global feudalism and eternal debt slavery) is whether we will initiate such forgiveness or be forced into it....

Read the entire article HERE



   

Waiting for Godot?

The markets are still in waiting mode for the Jackson Hole speech today. Monday is the Labor Day holiday in the U.S. so we'll probably have some sort of reaction to what is said today. In the mean time, I used my 1 minute chart to trade this morning. As discretionary traders, part of our job is to assess the context and make the appropriate adjustments as volatility and circumstances dictate.

Looking for some autumn reading?

For someone like me it's easy to forget that personalised medicine isn't just about genomics.

Eric Topol's The  Creative Destruction of Medicine isa book for genomicists who want to know what's going on in health care innovation outside of genomics. It's also a book for everyone else working in a health-related field who wants to understand the changes that are happening in medicine right now outside of their specialisation.

The central thesis of the book is that there are several areas of innovation in medicine - genomics, wireless sensors, health IT, social networking, and novel ways of assessing drug efficacy - that could each have a large impact, but that together they could change medicine beyond recognition.

There are many parts of The Creative Destruction of Medicinethat are excellent. The section on large clinical trials as an out-dated way of assessing drug efficacy and safety is one of them. Topol thinks that conditional approval would be a better alternative: Drugs that can reasonably be assumed to be safe are initially tested on a small group of patients under strictl regulation. The regulatory agency has the right to withdraw the conditional approval at any time, and only once a reasonably large dataset has been collected does the drug gain full approval.

Topol clearly loves his medical gadgets. I was amazed by some of the ones he describes, like a pocketable ultrasound device that allows imaging the heart in real time and that may soon replace that symbol of the medical profession, the stethoscope. My biggest complaint is that parts of the book are not entirely relevant to its central topic and have probably only been included because they are of interest to the author. For example, Topol is clearly passionate about the dangers posed by the ionising radiation that come with excessive use of medical imaging technology such as CT scans, but two chapters on this are too much.

If you wonder whether The Creative Destruction of Medicineis for you, here are the most important facts:

Areas covered: The convergence of wireless sensors, genomics, information systems, mobile connectivity, internet, social networking, and computing power. Basically anything that has to do with personalised medicine

Who it is for: Doctors and anyone else working in healthcare, including researchers. As someone working in genomics, I felt that the book did an excellent job of putting genomics into perspective

Who it is not for: This book is not a guide for patients to personalised medicine. Some of topics, such as the challenges of compatibility between different proprietary Health IT systems, will be less applicable to Europe than to the United States

How much it costs: The recommended retail price for the hardcover is $27.99, but online the book is available for $15.58. The Kindle edition is a bit more expensive and costs $15.73.

If you think you're going to buy this book, do so sooner rather than later: The rate of progress in medicine means that it'll be out-dated in a year.

Again, thanks to the Sanger Institute Library for ordering this book following my suggestion.

The Tao of Creativity

As I peruse blogs and read other people’s books, I struggle daily with a list of shoulds. I should strike every “was” and adverb from my prose. I should enter every writing contest I can. I should build a huge web presence. I should come up with some brilliant ploy to drive rush-hour volume traffic to my blog.

Or should I? Let’s face it—my voice wants to come out more conversational than literary. I’m not a contest person; words don’t immediately drip from my fingers. In fact, for me, initial ideas are the hardest part of being creative. I am not a daily blogger. Marketing doesn’t come as naturally to me as breathing, the way it does for Shelli Johannes-Wells, and I haven’t been blindsided by any genius inspirations, like Casey McCormick’s Agent Spotlight.

I don’t think I can change these things. Not easily. And the fact is, I shouldn’t. While the writing process takes dedication and hard work, it should also be organic to who you are. If you’re doing what you’re meant to be doing, the creativity will flow. The work won’t seem like work, because your passion and talent will carry you. All these people who I envy and admire aren’t finding their success because they’re trying to be something they’re not. They’re finding it because they’re following their true nature.

The philosophy of Taoism has a name for this: Wei wu wei, “doing without doing”. If you can’t wrap your mind around that, think of water, which is soft and weak, yet can wear away stone. A second concept goes hand in hand with this: P’u, the Uncarved Block. P’u, is a person’s natural state, their innate self, free of prejudices and misconceptions. The idea is that things are most perfect in this state. When you put these concepts together you come up with the following philosophy: By being true to ourselves, rather than striving to be something we’re not, things will come with less effort, and we will be happier.

A lot of envy and self-doubt comes with writing. Not just for the un-published crowd, but for established, award-winning authors. These feelings are a fallacy. A time sink that robs our creativity and distracts us from our work.  We all have our unique strengths, and that’s how it should be. Don’t allow yourself to be distracted from your path by the glitter of someone else’s gifts. Your own are just as dazzling.

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In addition to being a YA author, Lisa is a retired amateur stock car racer, an accomplished cat whisperer, and a professional smartass. She writes coming-of-age books about kids in hard luck situations who learn to appreciate their own value after finding mentors who love them for who they are. You can connect with her though her blog, The Tao or Webfoot, or buy her book, Running Wide Open, (currently FREE) at any major online retailer.

One Trade And Then...

.....nothing. Markets are very quiet this morning. Seems people are waiting for tomorrow's Bernanke's speak. Drahgi, the ECB president is hiding and we won't hear from him.

I'll trade what I see but my swing trades are a little short going into tomorrow.

Another piece in the Iran Puzzle- attempt to attack Iran in 07.

The following article is another important piece of the puzzle for people to read to understand the lies and deceit that are being fed to them about Iran.  The Cabal NEED an excuse to start a war against Iran and they will do ANYTHING to further their ambitions and add yet another floor to their tower of power and greed.  Iran has something that the Cabal wants.

...and it's not to stop Iran from building nuclear weapons.  Remember Iraq? And the search for weapons of mass destruction that they insisted were hidden there?  Remember that they finally were forced to admit that there never were any weapons of mass destruction?  The cabal isn't very original fortunately, so I am hoping that the people will be able to see this overly used ploy for what it is: An Excuse.

As I said in my article earlier this month "Iran: What you need to know before jumping on the war band wagon" there are some very important points that people need to understand:

• 
  Iran hasn't attacked another country in over 300 years. Read a history book
• Iran is the world's fourth largest oil producer and is OPEC's second-largest producer after Saudi
• Iran produces nuclear energy and is the only country besides Canada to be able to produce vital medical isotopes
• The only reports about Iran 'threatening" Israel and/or the USA are being generated by main stream media that is completely controlled by the Cabal
• and finally, and you really really need to think about this one as I think it is the most important issue to understanding the unbelievable push by the PTB to start a war with Iran:   Iran is one of only three countries left in the world whose central bank is not under Rothschild control. Before 9-11 there were reportedly seven: Afghanistan, Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Cuba, North Korea and Iran. By 2003, however, Afghanistan and Iraq were swallowed up by the Cabal and by 2011 Sudan and Libya were also gone. That leaves Iran, Cuba, and North Korea as the last standing free banks in the world.  ....what else do they all have in common?  Oh that's right!  They've all been targeted by mass propaganda campaigns by the US. 

Then to that knowledge add in this tidbit of seismic knowledge:

According to the USGS there have been 33 earthquakes in Iran in the past 30 days ranging between 4.1- 6.4 magnitude-  16 earthquakes on the 11th of August, and the vast majority all at exactly 10km deep.

According to the EMSC there have been 76 earthquakes in Iran in the past 30 days, and 30 earthquakes on Aug 11th- only 5 more than 10km deep.

And now, the article I would like you to read- the article that points out that American (as controlled by the Cabal) has already attempted, at least once, to start a war with Iran under the guise of a false flag attack.


29-Aug-2012

The Truth About the 2007 Invasion of Iran and the Woman Who Stopped It

A Brave Loyal American Prevents a USS Liberty Type False Flag Attack   Saving Hundreds of Marines and Sailors

“These four women survive, all have worked with Veterans Today and make up a group of patriotic and honest Americans who put duty and honor before career and cash.” ...Gordon

by  Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

Five years ago, an American woman serving in Bahrain single handedly stopped the United States government from a criminal attack on Iran and a series of “false flag” terror attacks on American troops and ships in the region.

American Neocons and Israeli lobby decided this was their last chance to start a war, one that would saddle the next president with a disaster of unprecedented proportions, fighting 3 wars during America’s Bush driven economic collapse.

The plans were in motion, plans that would have eventually collapsed the United States, plans also aimed at the destruction of Iran and the enslavement of her people.  One person, known to few, played a key role in stopping this disaster.

This is Gwyneth Todd, former member of President Clinton’s National Security Council and top Middle East advisor.  Stopping the Bush invasion would end her career and nearly cost her life.

Todd, though a ranking Navy official in 2007, was forced to flee Bahrain for her life, settling in Australia.  Those who aided her were murdered, jailed, hunted.

Today she is raising a family, taking care of wildlife and serves as an editor for Veterans Today.  This is part of a story few know, a desperate time and the heroic acts of one person, one who made a difference.

BUSH’S LAST OPPORTUNITY FOR A THIRD SIMULTANEOUS WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST

In 2007, an American armada, troop ships, aircraft carriers, guided missile cruisers and destroyers sailed into the Persian Gulf.  Their plan was to land Marines on Iranian soil, a plan hatched by Vice President Dick Cheney and White House officials including Karl Rove, Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Clarke.

Military command of this invasion, to be done without consultation of congress or the United Nations was left to Vice Admiral Kevin J. Cosgriff and Admiral Will J. Fallon, both career opportunists with extremist political views, willing to do anything for promotion and the curry favor from the powerful criminal figures in US government.

Their “cover story” was to sale a frigate up the Shatt al Arab, a disputed waterway between Iran and Iran, hoping to stimulate a “response” from Iran.

Their real plan was to create the response themselves, as was done by the Navy during the Tonkin Gulf Incident in 1964 when America “invented” an attack by North Vietnam as a prelude to a 10 year war America eventually lost.

Their plans were to create phony radio traffic simulating an Iranian attack in order to push America into authorizing hostilities that they, themselves, had perpetrated in as part of a conspiracy.

The official version of story is in a 5 page article in Washington Post last Sunday titled:

    “Why was a Navy advisor stripped of her career?”

What is important here is not just the quality of the story that is told, but the more important story that could never be told. There was a second part of the plan.  Admiral Cosgriff informed Todd, on December 13, 2007, while Todd was his chief advisor, that Iran planned on attacking Bahrain and had total control of Shiites in the region.

This is how the Washington Post reports her response to the Admiral:

“The report, which she guessed originated with the local CIA station, said the attacks were to be led by Bahrain’s top Shiite religious figure, Isa Qassim.

 Todd thought the report was fishy. Although Bahrain’s Shiites did oppose the U.S.-backed Sunni monarchy, they’re Arabs, eternal enemies of the Persian Iranians. And Qassim himself, it happened, had warned Todd just the previous day that anti-monarchy demonstrators might attack places frequented by U.S. personnel.

The report “looked like a fabrication by someone trying to kill two birds with one stone, by making the Bahraini Shia appear to be anti-U.S. terrorists who also happened to be taking orders from Iran,” Todd said. “I knew, really knew, that the Bahraini Shia were trying to ensure U.S. personnel were nowhere near the possible violence.” She suspected the intelligence report was cooked up by Bush administration hawks.”

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Todd was sent to meet with intelligence sources who said the report was bogus.  Private sources told a different story.

They indicated that Bahrainian secret police, aided by special operations units answerable to the Joint Special Operations Command under Vice President Cheney, planned to stage an attack on US facilities.

The would be timed to attacks on US naval personnel, terror bombings, staged by Americans but blamed on Isa Qassim, a popular religious figure who was known to oppose the local monarchy.

Through him, false claims of naval attacks would flood in to Washington and Marines would land in Iran.

Hundreds of Americans would be murdered by fellow Americans to serve “political necessity and the greater good,” as the slogan so often used by the “neocons” goes, especially when criminal acts are involved.

NONE OF THIS CAME TO PASS
The night Admiral Cosgriff sent Todd out to meet a CIA informant in Dirza, Todd’s clearances were stripped, she was cut off from all contact and abandoned, abandoned and hunted by death squads of Bahrainian secret police who had been tailing her.

    She was going to be murdered in Bahrain to silence her, as so many have been since.

In the interim, however, Todd contacted ranking supporters within the Navy and US government, reporting this attempt at terrorism and an unauthorized invasion and, with the help of her soon to be husband, an Australian naval official, managed to escape unharmed and hunted.

The “Cosgriff/Fallon War Deception” was derailed and war averted.

 _________________________

“GW” TODD, TARGET ON THE RUN
The most hunted person on earth has never been Julian Assange; it has been Gwyneth Todd, who has held some of the highest positions in government and as a military advisor during two presidencies.

Only a year ago, “GW” as she is called at Veterans Today was subject to what we believe to be an attempted kidnap/rendition while living in Australia.  The story was featured front page on theSydney Morning Herald.

“GW” married to an official of the Australian Ministry of Defense, is in Australia ducking endless US ploys to silence her on her direct access to information that could put a virtual army of Bush era top official in prison for life or worse.

This week, the Washington Post did a 5 page spread on GW, editing out the “juicy parts” that we will be filling in over the weeks prior to the election.  No American paper would ever allow the unedited truth to be read by the public, now an “uninformed electorate.”

The Post touched on a few startling revelations but due to issues of policy more than national security, left out “GW’s” extensive knowledge at White House level.

Todd had evidence of foreign spying, was able to name names, criminal activity in the advance planning, years in advance of the Iraq War and her knowledge of the working group in the Pentagon and White House that prepared for the 9/11 attacks months in advance.

Todd had, you see, been assigned by former National Security Advisor and Secretary of State, Condi Rice, to work with the FBI in order to eliminate spy organizations working within the White House.  What she and the FBI learned brought about the arrest of a number of high officials.

The FBI agents who worked with Todd were set aside, their careers ruined and, later, the FBI would hunt Todd, a “new FBI” tasked with silencing those who “knew too much.”

__________________________

GWYNETH TODD’S OFFICIAL BIO AS QUOTED BY THE WASHINGTON POST:

Gwyneth Todd was from a long line of American diplomats, bankers, spies and scholars going back to Revolutionary times.

Her first 17 years had been spent following her father, Kenneth Thompson, a career diplomat, and mother, Eve Tyler, granddaughter of a renowned art collector, through embassies in Malta, Turkey, West Africa, England and Spain.

Summers were spent at the family chateau in France, where the bloodline led back to Napoleon.

But Washington was home. Her maternal grandfather, William Royall Tyler, had been an assistant secretary of state in the Kennedy administration and director of Dumbarton Oaks, the estate and center for Byzantine and pre-Columbian art studies.

The estate’s original owners, Robert and Mildred Bliss, were intimate friends of her family. “When we weren’t overseas, I spent much of my time as a child playing in the gardens,” Todd said during one of several interviews in the past year.

She graduated Phi Beta Kappa in Near and Middle Eastern studies from the University of California at Berkeley, then earned a master’s in Arabic and international affairs in 1990 at Georgetown University.

HONOR AND DEATH, HAND IN HAND IN “NEOCON” WASHINGTON

Todd, at one time with the among the highest security clearances in US government, witnessed much during her career cut short by a criminal cover-up by American political and military officials who likely will never face the criminal charges against them that facts justify.

As with Sibel Edmonds, Valerie Plame and Susan Lindauer, Gwyneth Todd, survivors of a rogue regime, holds information that could bring America’s “cardboard cutout” democracy to its knees.

These four women survive, all have worked with Veterans Today and make up a group of patriotic and honest Americans who put duty and honor before career and cash.

PAT TILLMAN
What is unique about them is that they survive while others like former football star and Army Corporal, Pat Tillman, were murdered or simply disappeared, as did so many who got too close to the questionable circumstances surrounding the 9/11 events.

Tillman, a “picture perfect” soldier was shot in the forehead 4 times at close range by unnamed fellow Americans while serving in Afghanistan.  Tillman had begun to question the war.  Today his death is listed as “friendly fire,” a strange term for government sanctioned premeditated murder.

At the time, US Commander in Afghanistan, General Stanley McChrystal lied to the press and the American people claiming Tillman was killed by “enemy fire.”  This expose represented a bitter end to McChrystal’s career.

Todd still lives with her family in Australia, somewhat of a local celebrity after the attempt by US officials to, well, we aren’t sure what their plans were, rendition, murder, we will never know.

Editors Note:  I will pose to you all that we are long past due a needed divorce from all internal investigations, not a one of which is worth spit. They are a mockery of even the word justice, much less the concept. They are a proven national security threat and have totally undermined accountability for high crimes and misdemeanors at the highest level. We need a totally independent investigative and judicial branch to handle any and all such investigations. And that would include the Justice Department and the FBI…no exceptions…Jim W. Dean

Editing:  Jim W. Dean

Gordon Duff is a Marine Vietnam veteran, a combat infantryman, and Senior Editor at Veterans Today. His career has included extensive experience in international banking along with such diverse areas as consulting on counter insurgency, defense technologies or acting as diplomatic officer of UN humanitarian groups.
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... Here is something else to think about:  If the USA is so concerned with the freedom of people and bringing and supporting democracy around the world, why have they not marched their troops into Tibet, or Burma, or Cambodia?  Figure out what Kuwait, Iraq, Libya, and Iran have that Tibet, Burma and Cambodia do not have.... then maybe the propaganda will make sense.

SO Update: Aug 29 2012

I'm currently working on researching some things that SuspiciousObservers has touched on in the past three days and will be having a conference call later today to discuss with other my very serious concerns over what we have been seeing over the last 6 days.  I will update you here, once I have my thoughts pulled together.

Sometimes The Chart Looks Heavy

This is a Euro trade I made this morning. I was looking at the chart and saw the breakdown at the red bar before the red bar of the trade. The straight lines are just dynamic support and resistance lines that help to show the S and R. It's a free Ninjatrader indicator from their site. But that was not the point. Looking to the left of that breakdown bar I saw the heaviness in price so when the big CCI broke below zero, I was ready to sell a pullback. That was the trade.

Tell Me About Heaven: 

A Behind the Scene Look at Don't Fear the Reaper

Tell me about Heaven, Dad

I really want to know,

Because ten long years have passed,

And I miss you so...

~Michelle Muto

The above stanza is from a poem I wrote to my father ten years after his death. I cannot begin to describe what it was like to lose my father, whom I loved more than my very being. All these years later, I'll freely admit it: I'm a Daddy's girl. We're so much alike, he and I.  was robbed of him far too soon by multiple myeloma, a brutal and incurable cancer often contracted by toxins through the skin. He worked his whole life as an airline mechanic for a large airline - a job he loved.

For those who have read Don't Fear the Reaper, it's easy to see the real life example I used. It's easy to spot the grief, the emotion I used for my main character, Keely Morrison.

After all, there's the old writing advice of write what you know, right?

But there's so much more to Don't Fear the Reaper than just that. There's the story of literary agents and why the economy played a part in my decision to go indie.

There are other things, too. Like research. The strangest research I've ever done? Interview a morgue. Yep. I needed to know about the condition a body might be in, tools used in an autopsy, among others.

On a less morbid note, there's a playlist. No book is ever really complete without one, right? So, what did I listen to once the book was in place?

For the movie goers, there's always the question of who'd play Banning (Simon Baker), Keely Morrison (Claire Foy), and Daniel (I still don't have a clue). Ideas anyone? I'd love to hear them.

If you haven't read Don't Fear the Reaper, the first chapter is one my site here.

Are You Awake Yet? Revolution 2012

This video is going viral... for good reason.  It is being posted everywhere and I will do my part here to continue it's journey.  

The Sleeper must Awaken.

Watch and Share.  Everywhere.

#indiechat 8/28/12 Critique partners and beta readers.

Feel free to leave the title, genre, one/two sentence pitch and your email to find betas!

laurapauling What a great topic! Crit partners and beta readers! #indiechat Hi everyone! -8:59 PM Aug 28th, 2012

MaganVernon Alright, one minute early, but welcome to #Indiechat We are talking critique partners and beta readers! -9:00 PM Aug 28th, 2012

MaganVernon I'm hosting tonight, but also watching Face Off, so just watch out for my live tweeting #Indiechat -9:01 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell probably helpful to explain the difference between betas and CPs for the folks who don't know... #indiechat -9:01 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn Awesome topic tonight! "critique partners and beta reader" So, so important for indie authors (really any author). #indiechat -9:01 PM Aug 28th, 2012

HeatherSunseri RT @laurapauling: What a great topic! Crit partners and beta readers! #indiechat Hi everyone! -9:02 PM Aug 28th, 2012

MaganVernon Let's throw it out there. What do YOU all think the differences are between a beta and a critique partner? #Indiechat -9:02 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling Any writing advice, the top tip always seems to be find critique partners. #indiechat -9:02 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 Hi Everyone! #indiechat -9:02 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling For me, crit partners are more chapter to chapter or just the opening. Not as much big picture. #indiechat -9:02 PM Aug 28th, 2012

MaganVernon @EArroyo5 a welcome! We are talking crit partners and beta readers! #Indiechat -9:03 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell My CPs are the ones who read with a critical eye & catch everything on the micro and macro level; betas are more macro-only #indiechat -9:03 PM Aug 28th, 2012

HeatherSunseri I think of beta readers for getting an overall opinion of the story, not necessarily critique of the actual writing. #indiechat -9:03 PM Aug 28th, 2012

DougSolter Yea! Made it to #indiechat -9:04 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn @MaganVernon Ya know, I don't fuss much re:name. Just "people willing to read my stuff" - but diff people have diff strengths #indiechat -9:04 PM Aug 28th, 2012

MaganVernon For me crit partners help with the technical and story changes, I use betas for flow. #Indiechat -9:04 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell picked up a tip at a conference for using teen betas: B, C, D (bored, confused, don't believe it). easy system for them to use #indiechat -9:04 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 CP's are more micro and macro. I see them as a marriage. While Betas are more folks you hang out with from time to time. #indiechat -9:04 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling I def. count on betas for big picture, story structure...#indiechat -9:04 PM Aug 28th, 2012

SPNHeather #indiechat So should I get a crit partner for a chapter by chapter thing? -9:04 PM Aug 28th, 2012

HeatherSunseri How many betas/CPs does one writer need? #indiechat I wrestle with this a little. -9:04 PM Aug 28th, 2012

MaganVernon How many CPs do you have? Betas? Does it vary on the story? #Indiechat -9:05 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn I did a series on my blog called Critique Wednesdays. Here's one that has tips on critiquing: http://t.co/tafweo32 #indiechat -9:05 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell I have two trusted CPs and I'll take as many beta readers as I can get #indiechat -9:05 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 My betas vary from story to story but CP's are more constant. #indiechat -9:05 PM Aug 28th, 2012

LawsonWrites I have people who read for story others for general errors (consistency) and then editors. About three levels of readers #indiechat -9:06 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling @MaganVernon I try to match the story with beta reader's interests. Sometimes it matches up, but not always. #indiechat -9:06 PM Aug 28th, 2012

MaganVernon @SPNHeather With my CPs, we swap the hole manuscript and take to it with the track changes in word. #Indiechat -9:06 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn @HeatherSunseri I have a Critquers of Awesome list-I'm always adding. Diff people are avail/helpful for diff books/types of crit #indiechat -9:06 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell @SPNHeather that would probably be helpful. you need someone willing to invest time in your story. #indiechat -9:06 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling I'm always looking for new beta readers so I don't burn out the ones I have. #indiechat -9:06 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn Smart! @laurapauling: Im always looking for new beta readers so I dont burn out the ones I have. #indiechat -9:07 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell @LawsonWrites yeah, editors are a whole 'nother level. but I wouldn't pay for editing until I'd already had other CP eyes on it #indiechat -9:07 PM Aug 28th, 2012

SPNHeather @JessieHarrell well junk! LOL can't use hubby then cause he is co-author #indiechat Where do you find them -9:07 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling I have a three crit partners I met at the nescbwi conf. but we're not always at the same stage of dev. #indiechat -9:07 PM Aug 28th, 2012

HeatherSunseri @susankayequinn Great idea, Susan. Thanks. And good point. People aren't always available exactly when you need them. #indiechat -9:07 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero Hey guys! I almost decided not to be in #indiechat today, but... -9:07 PM Aug 28th, 2012

LawsonWrites @SPNHeather I try not to do chap by chap. Maybe several sections or the final copy. Too much input on short parts gets confusing #indiechat -9:07 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 I'm still looking for CPs and Betas. #indiechat -9:07 PM Aug 28th, 2012

HeatherSunseri RT @laurapauling: I'm always looking for new beta readers so I don't burn out the ones I have. #indiechat //Great idea. -9:08 PM Aug 28th, 2012

MaganVernon @laurapauling @susankayequinn I had close to 7 for HTDA and practically all Btas for Mph #Indiechat -9:08 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero I recently beta read a published author's work. It was a time-taking yet fun experience. #indiechat -9:08 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling Chapter to chapter critiques take so long, my crit partners never make it past Act I. #indiechat -9:08 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell @SPNHeather I found folks on #yalitchat - there's a group there to find others. just make sure you like their writing style #indiechat -9:08 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn @chihuahuazero Glad you're here! ;) #indiechat -9:08 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 I burn out my CPs as I rely on them for high and low moments. #indiechat -9:09 PM Aug 28th, 2012

LawsonWrites I also try to find people interested in my particular subject (YA, Paranormal, Romance). #indiechat -9:09 PM Aug 28th, 2012

overdunne Hi everyone! #indiechat -9:09 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero I still feel sorry for giving my betas my unfinished story before its time. Speaking of which... #indiechat -9:09 PM Aug 28th, 2012

MaganVernon @chihuahuazero Welcome in! #Indiechat -9:09 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell @SPNHeather oh yeah, and I met a CP at an SCBWI conference (as well as many more potential ones, but time becomes a factor) #indiechat -9:09 PM Aug 28th, 2012

HeatherSunseri I don't prefer chapter to chapter. I have trouble remembering what I read prior. I prefer trading entire manuscripts. #indiechat -9:09 PM Aug 28th, 2012

MaganVernon If people are looking for CPs and betas this #Indiechat is also probably a good place to find them. -9:10 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn @EArroyo5 This might help: http://t.co/3I4rOy2l #indiechat -9:10 PM Aug 28th, 2012

MaganVernon @overdunne Welcome! #Indiechat -9:10 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn Very important in a crit partner @LawsonWrites: I find people interested in my particular subject (YA, Paranormal, Romance). #indiechat -9:10 PM Aug 28th, 2012

BooksOverBoys RT @MaganVernon: If people are looking for CPs and betas this #Indiechat is also probably a good place to find them. -9:11 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling @HeatherSunseri I don't think chapter to chapter can replace a full beta. #indiechat -9:11 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell tip: when trying out a new CP, switch just a few chapters 1st. if you don't like their writing or feedback, no sense in going on #indiechat -9:11 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling @susankayequinn But at the same time, I had an excellent beta who didn't write my genre. A very different perspective. #indiechat -9:11 PM Aug 28th, 2012

SPNHeather @MaganVernon Oh , well I could use one :) I need someone who is not a "friend" and is willing to tell me when it sucks and such #IndieChat -9:11 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 @susankayequinn I was actually part of critters. Had to let it go because of time. #indiechat -9:11 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn Excellent advice! @JessieHarrell: tip: when trying out a new CP, switch just a few chapters 1st. #indiechat -9:12 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero My betas did some proofreading of my earlier MS. Did the same happen to you? #indiechat -9:12 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 I think Betas could be anyone, whether they read your genre or not. Watcha think? #indiechat -9:12 PM Aug 28th, 2012

MaganVernon There are also national groups that have local chapters and are great to find CPs. Like SCWBI and RWA #Indiechat -9:12 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn @EArroyo5 Ah! I haven't used it - so it's not just a matchmaker, there's a time committment? #indiechat -9:12 PM Aug 28th, 2012

MaganVernon @SPNHeather Maybe check back with me after my October deadline and A could be free :) #Indiechat -9:13 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling Def. A mixed group is good. RT @EArroyo5: I think Betas could be anyone, whether they read your genre or not. Watcha think? #indiechat -9:13 PM Aug 28th, 2012

overdunne Always looking for help getting things right, but I've decided beta is better for me. Like 2 keep things close until "finished" #indiechat -9:13 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling I absolutely could not survive w/out betas! #indiechat -9:13 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero I once critiqued ten pieces in one week over at Critique Circle. Haven't been able to go back to the site. #indiechat -9:13 PM Aug 28th, 2012

SPNHeather @MaganVernon Awesome! I'm doing YA paranormal romance ... and we are half into our first draft #IndieChat -9:14 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn @EArroyo5 They can be, but it helps if they understand genre conventions. Then again, a good CP can crit anything. #indiechat -9:14 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell @EArroyo5 I want someone to beta who is interested in my genre. prefer teens so I get a sense of whether I've gotten YA voice #indiechat -9:14 PM Aug 28th, 2012

MaganVernon Here is a touch question, how do you know when to dump a CP or beta and ow do you go about it? #Indiechat -9:14 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero Opinions on teen betas for YA? #indiechat -9:14 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 @susankayequinn There's a percentage of crits you have to maintain. At least once a week. #indiechat -9:14 PM Aug 28th, 2012

MaganVernon @SPNHeather Obviously I have the most random mixture of books in the world, ha, #Indiechat -9:15 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 @susankayequinn "genre conventions"? #indiechat -9:15 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell @SPNHeather it's great you're writing w/ someone. keeps u motivated and is a built in beta. 2 heads and all. #indiechat -9:15 PM Aug 28th, 2012

patricialynne07 Lurking in #IndieChat. Talking beta and crit partners. =) -9:15 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn @EArroyo5 Yeah, that wouldn't work for me either. My needs flex and so do other people's. #indiechat -9:15 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 @chihuahuazero I had a teen beta. Loved it! #indiechat -9:15 PM Aug 28th, 2012

LawsonWrites While writing I really need someone on standby to throw ideas out to &help me keep on plot. Later I need more solid advice #indiechat -9:15 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell @chihuahuazero LOVE them, as long as you give them guidelines for feedback. must tell them what expecting or will be generic #indiechat -9:15 PM Aug 28th, 2012

MaganVernon @chihuahuazero I used a teen beta once. She was helpful on lingo, but not structure. I use teens more as "consultants" #Indiechat -9:15 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero @EArroyo5 @susankayequinn For example, the different romance "tropes" in YA. #indiechat -9:16 PM Aug 28th, 2012

HeatherSunseri RT @chihuahuazero: Opinions on teen betas for YA? #indiechat //I plan to let my teen daughter read. Does that count? ;) -9:16 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn @EArroyo5 Like, what YA readers expect vs. hard SF. Or cozy mysteries vs. romance. #indiechat -9:16 PM Aug 28th, 2012

SPNHeather @JessieHarrell It's interesting esp. it being my husband and all :) #indiechat -9:16 PM Aug 28th, 2012

SPNHeather @MaganVernon I like that though #indiechat -9:16 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 @susankayequinn Gotcha. Makes sense. #indiechat -9:16 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn @SPNHeather You're lucky! My husband barely reads my stuff AFTER it's published. LOL #indiechat -9:17 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling After I return a beta read with a new beta, I wait and see if they ask again. I like it to be a fair trade. #indiechat -9:17 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero Finding teen betas will be easy for me. Go to lunch table, slam MS table, say "email me!" #indiechat -9:17 PM Aug 28th, 2012

overdunne Hard to find a teen with the knowledge base/focus to be a true CP. But they are great for overall feel and 'lingo' #indiechat -9:17 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling My husband does not read my stuff. lol #indiechat -9:17 PM Aug 28th, 2012

MaganVernon Okay, I'll throw a different question out there then. In person V online CPs. Who uses what? Do you like one better? #Indiechat -9:17 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell @chihuahuazero goes back to my B, C, D advice. get them to write it in margins if they are bored, confused or don't believe it #indiechat -9:17 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling @MaganVernon I don't think I'll face to face crit group again. #indiechat I like email. -9:18 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero @MaganVernon I've done only online critiquing. Mostly through Google Docs, which is now Drive. #indiechat -9:18 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 @susankayequinn I'm in the same boat. My kids won't read it either. They think it's too weird. lol #indiechat -9:18 PM Aug 28th, 2012

LawsonWrites @chihuahuazero i have some that I ask general questions to but not really reading upfront. its not a bad idea though #indiechat -9:18 PM Aug 28th, 2012

MaganVernon RT @overdunne: Hard to find a teen with the knowledge base/focus to be a true CP. But they are great for overall feel and 'lingo' #indiechat -9:18 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn @MaganVernon I'm mostly online, although I have a monthly SCBWI crit group - they just don't have time to do the crits I need. #indiechat -9:18 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 I know I couldn't do a face to face crit group. I have to process the info alone. #indiechat -9:18 PM Aug 28th, 2012

MaganVernon @chihuahuazero Ive never used Google Docs for critiquing, just word track changes. Hmmm. #Indiechat -9:19 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero It's fortunate that I have an author I can swap MSes with in the future. #indiechat -9:19 PM Aug 28th, 2012

patricialynne07 @MaganVernon I had a friend who was an amazing crit partner. Then I had to move and she got busy with her kids. #indiechat -9:19 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell @MaganVernon I'm all about online CPs. Even my one in-town CP, we still swap e-copies. im not productive face-to-face. #chitchat #indiechat -9:19 PM Aug 28th, 2012

MaganVernon @laurapauling Bad experience with face to face? #Indiechat -9:19 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn @EArroyo5 I just realized I have a teen CP - my kid! (He's a writer too) #indiechat -9:19 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero @MaganVernon It's useful if you have more than one beta. I had them leave comments. #indiechat -9:19 PM Aug 28th, 2012

LawsonWrites @laurapauling ha mine either. maybe at the very final edits. like, final. #indiechat -9:20 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn @EArroyo5 Face to face groups are awesome for reading story openings - a few pages, you can see if you grab 'em. Or not. #indiechat -9:20 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero @EArroyo5 I'm not sure if I have the PAPER to do face-to-face. #indiechat -9:20 PM Aug 28th, 2012

MaganVernon @susankayequinn We can bring five pages in to my RWA group a month. I use it a lot fr opening pages and romance help. #Indiechat -9:20 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling @MaganVernon Not a bad exper. But it took up a lot of time. #indiechat I'd rather meet once a month but not twice a month. -9:20 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 @susankayequinn I usually bounce ideas off my kids, but that's as far as they'll go. #indiechat -9:20 PM Aug 28th, 2012

MaganVernon @patricialynne07 Losing an amazing cp sucks! #Indiechat -9:20 PM Aug 28th, 2012

LawsonWrites @MaganVernon I have both, but the in person ones are just for my level 1 reading...content #indiechat -9:21 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 @susankayequinn I'm just not brave enough to do that yet. =) #indiechat -9:21 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn RT @MaganVernon: We can bring five pages in to my RWA group a month. I use it a lot fr opening pages and romance help. #indiechat -9:21 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell @susankayequinn I know LM Preston wrangles her kids into her writing. reads to them on road trips & gets feedback #indiechat -9:21 PM Aug 28th, 2012

patricialynne07 @MaganVernon I've lost a couple and have been struggling to find new ones. >.< #indiechat -9:21 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 @chihuahuazero lol #indiechat -9:21 PM Aug 28th, 2012

MaganVernon I'm sorry #Indiechat but I have to bounce. The killer is whining. @susankayequinn @laurapauling and @JessieHarrell will take over! -9:22 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn @EArroyo5 Find a friendly group - go first, don't bring pages, just listen. See if they're sharks. :) Then jump in. :) #indiechat -9:22 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero @EArroyo5 I mean, I don't want to take the time to go to a printing place, and school won't like me using their printers. #indiechat -9:22 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 There's a RWA chapter near where I live. I should just do it. #indiechat -9:22 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn @MaganVernon Have a good night, Magan! #indiechat -9:23 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 @chihuahuazero I know what you mean. It can get pricey #indiechat -9:23 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell @EArroyo5 totally. RWA or I know our local SCBWI chapter does the same thing at the end of the meetings. #indiechat -9:23 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn @EArroyo5 You're not in IL by chance, are you? I've been meaning to go to my local RWA - we could be buddies. :) #indiechat -9:24 PM Aug 28th, 2012

overdunne Hardest part abt having a crit partner- u have 2 crit back! I love reading other's stuff-hard to give honest but pos criticism #indiechat -9:24 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling @HeatherSunseri I can handle only so many crit partners. And I've had up to 4/5 betas on a story. #indiechat -9:24 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 @susankayequinn Yeah. I can use a buddy. lol #indiechat -9:24 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell @MaganVernon good luck! #indiechat -9:24 PM Aug 28th, 2012

kathkells I would LOVE to find a crit partner. Haven't had much luck these last few years. I write YA thrillers/horror, some contemp. #indiechat -9:25 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling What are some good guidelines for critiquing and beta reading? #indiechat -9:25 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero Critiquing is something the TV Trope writing forum struggles with. Everyone wants a critique, but not TO critique. #indiechat -9:25 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell @overdunne yes! sometimes it's more work to find the positive ... #indiechat -9:25 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell there is a free group on yalitchat that lets you get feedback on your first 5 and help others in return. good place to find CPs #indiechat -9:26 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn @EArroyo5 Wait, you ARE in Illinois -what part? I'm thinking of going to the northwest suburbs chapter - DesPlaines? #indiechat -9:26 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling How many of you follow that sandwich rule? #indiechat -9:26 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn http://t.co/tafweo32 @laurapauling: What are some good guidelines for critiquing and beta reading? #indiechat -9:26 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling Two positive comments for every negative. I think that applies more to chapter critiques though. #indiechat -9:27 PM Aug 28th, 2012

LawsonWrites Critiquing is hard. My early partners were harsh and set me up to handle almost anything. I try to do the same back. #indiechat -9:27 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 @susankayequinn Me too! I live in Chicago. #indiechat -9:27 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero @laurapauling I aim for more 50/50. #indiechat -9:27 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell @laurapauling I think when critiquing, it's very important not to make the story yours. stick w/in the authors' vision. #indiechat -9:27 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn @chihuahuazero This is why swaps are the way to go-I do yours, you do mine (not necessarily at the same time). Accountability #indiechat -9:27 PM Aug 28th, 2012

overdunne @laurapauling not really sandwich, but I try to always end on a good note. #indiechat -9:27 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 Balance the good with the not so good as honestly as you can. #indiechat -9:28 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero @susankayequinn Thinking about it, that's something they haven't really tried out. #indiechat -9:28 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero @ondinal_songs It varies, but it's more of a community than many of the writer's forums I've joined. #indiechat -9:28 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling @JessieHarrell That's a great one. One that all writers learn. To respect an author's vision for their story. #indiechat -9:28 PM Aug 28th, 2012

overdunne RT @JessieHarrell:I think when critiquing, its very important not to make the story yours. stick w/in the authors vision. <-agree #indiechat -9:29 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell I also try to tell the author WHY I don't understand something. maybe it's intentional on their part or they overlooked it #indiechat -9:29 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling At the same time, I'm not a newbie and don't need false praise. I just want to make the story better. #indiechat -9:29 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell yep! RT @laurapauling: At the same time, Im not a newbie and dont need false praise. I just want to make the story better. #indiechat -9:30 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling So much of the criticism is in how we phrase our words. I don't use words like, "Um, really?" #indiechat -9:30 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero Has anyone have any trouble not overhauling a story's prose while being a beta? #indiechat -9:30 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 RT @JessieHarrell: there is a free group on yalitchat that lets you get feedback on your first 5 and help others in return. #indiechat -9:30 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn @EArroyo5 Email me! Maybe we can meet up in an RWA mtg in Sept. susankayequinn@comcast.net #indiechat -9:30 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 @overdunne It's hard for me to word my negative thoughts in a good way, if that makes sense. #indiechat -9:31 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling @chihuahuazero Honestly, during a beta, I stay away from the prose unless I notice a pattern. #indiechat -9:31 PM Aug 28th, 2012

overdunne @JessieHarrell Also agree! I try to tell author where my eye stuck. Where things were confusing. And where I went 'Yes!' #indiechat -9:31 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn @laurapauling Yeah, sarcastic crits = not so much helpful! #indiechat -9:31 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 @susankayequinn Will do. =) #indiechat -9:32 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell @chihuahuazero I'm technical, so I'll jump on commas & such, but leave the prose alone unless really awkward #indiechat -9:32 PM Aug 28th, 2012

overdunne @EArroyo5 Yep. I understand that one. Sometimes things are just bad. But it's always a start for better. #indiechat -9:32 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling I always try and ask the writer what stage the manuscript is in. I'll beta differently for a more polished draft. #indiechat -9:32 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn @EArroyo5: @overdunne Keep it personal, meaning "this doesn't work for me" or "I don't understand this" #indiechat -9:32 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero @JessieHarrell I try to stay with technical, but it gets foggy when description comes into play. #indiechat -9:33 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling How have most of you found your beta readers or crit partners? #indiechat -9:33 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 @overdunne Yes! And it's subjective anyway. It's just my thoughts and I make that as clear as I can. #indiechat -9:33 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell RT @laurapauling I always try and ask the writer what stage the manuscript is in. Ill beta differently for a more polished draft. #indiechat -9:33 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 I found my crit partner through blogs. #indiechat -9:34 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn Blogs, chats (!), in person, conferences... @laurapauling: How have most of you found your beta readers or crit partners? #indiechat -9:34 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell I think giving feedback to others is a great way to fine tune your editing skills for use on your own work. #indiechat -9:34 PM Aug 28th, 2012

Froze8 @MaganVernon I love beta reading! :) #indiechat -9:34 PM Aug 28th, 2012

overdunne @laurapauling Twitter! I have one dear and HONEST friend who helps me with small sticky parts though... #indiechat -9:34 PM Aug 28th, 2012

LawsonWrites @laurapauling other writers. Some readers. Most through online networks #indiechat -9:34 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 RT @JessieHarrell: I think giving feedback to others is a great way to fine tune your editing skills for use on your own work. #indiechat -9:34 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero @susankayequinn @laurapauling Friends, in my one/two "major" beta read attempt. #indiechat -9:35 PM Aug 28th, 2012

LynAlmodovar RT @JessieHarrell: I think giving feedback to others is a great way to fine tune your editing skills for use on your own work. #indiechat -9:35 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell My CPs have come from conferences, yalitchat and a "love connection" (mutual friend introduced us) #indiechat -9:35 PM Aug 28th, 2012

overdunne I am open to beta'ing for folks, but I don't have anything ready for trade right now. Will soon...about 15k left in current WIP #indiechat -9:35 PM Aug 28th, 2012

susankayequinn I have to run - have fun indiechatters! #indiechat -9:35 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell My betas are typically my non-writing friends or their kids who don't mind giving feedback or talking through plot, etc. #indiechat -9:35 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero @susankayequinn Good night! #indiechat -9:36 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling I love having a few where we'll always be willing to trade work. Other betas might end up being a one time thing. That's okay. #indiechat -9:36 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling At what point in your manuscript do you ask for beta reads or chapter crits? #indiechat -9:36 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 @susankayequinn night. #indiechat -9:36 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero I'm not sure if I should offer to beta read or not, but I'm open in the future. #indiechat -9:37 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero @laurapauling Last time, I asked too early. I'm waiting until I have a more polished draft. #indiechat -9:37 PM Aug 28th, 2012

overdunne @laurapauling after editing first draft. #indiechat -9:37 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 I ask for betas after the ms is as polished as I could get it. CPs look at it much earlier. #indiechat -9:37 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling @overdunne Me too. I try and do all the major rewrites I can do. Then I ask for betas. #indiechat -9:38 PM Aug 28th, 2012

patricialynne07 I ask for betas after a complete rewrite a few more read throughs. #indiechat -9:38 PM Aug 28th, 2012

LawsonWrites @laurapauling either about midway--if I need plotting advice or when I'm finished. #indiechat -9:38 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell @chihuahuazero I think beta reading is faster than being a CP - CPs have to be more critical IMO #indiechat -9:38 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling I don't want to start polishing to realize a big plot hole is glaring at me. #indiechat -9:39 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell agree --> RT @EArroyo5: I ask for betas after the ms is as polished as I could get it. CPs look at it much earlier. #indiechat -9:39 PM Aug 28th, 2012

EArroyo5 I gotta go. Great chat. #indiechat -9:39 PM Aug 28th, 2012

MichWritesBooks @jessieharrell @laurapauling Yes! This! #IndieChat -9:39 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling @EArroyo5 Good night! #indiechat -9:39 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling But I'll let the reader know that no one else has read it yet. Those betas have the toughest job. #indiechat -9:40 PM Aug 28th, 2012

Addison_Moore Late but thrilled to be here! Betas are gold! #Indiechat -9:40 PM Aug 28th, 2012

overdunne @laurapauling Feels sloppy if I haven't had at least 1 edit. Couldn't bear to share it before...unless it's just a part or scene #indiechat -9:41 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling @Addison_Moore Hey there! *waves* #indiechat -9:41 PM Aug 28th, 2012

overdunne @EArroyo5 night, night! #indiechat -9:41 PM Aug 28th, 2012

Addison_Moore @HeatherSunseri I agree! And so nice to see you, girl! #Indiechat -9:41 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero Thinking, my early betas were alphas. #indiechat -9:41 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling @overdunne That would have to be someone I knew well and trusted. #indiechat -9:41 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling Usually I do some big rewrites have the first beta read. Gets easier after that. #indiechat -9:41 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell @EArroyo5 good night #indiechat -9:41 PM Aug 28th, 2012

kramerhendricks RT @chihuahuazero: Thinking, my early betas were alphas. #indiechat -9:42 PM Aug 28th, 2012

LynAlmodovar RT @EArroyo5: I ask for betas after the ms is as polished as I could get it. CPs look at it much earlier. #indiechat -9:42 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero Maybe I should leave early...but I don't know what to first. Blog post, typing up rough draft, getting back to novel... #indiechat -9:42 PM Aug 28th, 2012

overdunne @laurapauling also personally feel I'd be wasting their time if it wasn't ready for other eyes. #indiechat -9:42 PM Aug 28th, 2012

LawsonWrites I've also started drafting the whole story & then put it "away" for a bit. During that time I get out the prior book and polish #indiechat -9:42 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling @overdunne I agree. I do all the work I can do first. #indiechat -9:42 PM Aug 28th, 2012

LynAlmodovar RT @laurapauling: But I'll let the reader know that no one else has read it yet. Those betas have the toughest job. #indiechat -9:43 PM Aug 28th, 2012

Addison_Moore @SPNHeather Absolute write forums? Not sure about that one. @NathanBransford has forums you might try. @JessieHarrell #Indiechat -9:43 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling Has anyone ever had a partner read over an outline or synopsis? #indiechat -9:43 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell so it seems like most people use betas later for polishing and CPs early to vet out the bugs/holes/etc. #indiechat -9:43 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling I found long time friends and crit partners on Critique Circle. #indiechat -9:43 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling I don't frequent it very often anymore though. Great place to get started. #indiechat -9:44 PM Aug 28th, 2012

Addison_Moore @SPNHeather I still think friends and family are great too!!!! ;) @JessieHarrell #Indiechat -9:44 PM Aug 28th, 2012

overdunne One thing I do like about betas- the feeling of a deadline. If I know I've got a time to work toward I work more efficiently. #indiechat -9:44 PM Aug 28th, 2012

SPNHeather @Addison_Moore Thank you so much Addison! #indiechat @JessieHarrell -9:44 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell @laurapauling oh, I did that with my recent novel idea. wanted to see if CP thought plot sounded engaging enough. #indiechat -9:44 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling @JessieHarrell I use a beta after major rewrites and also after I polish...just to make sure. #indiechat -9:44 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero @laurapauling Me either. #indiechat -9:44 PM Aug 28th, 2012

Addison_Moore @LawsonWrites I agree. Time apart always helps. #Indiechat -9:44 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell @Addison_Moore true. I get hubby to listen to my guy dialog so he can tell me how to make it sound more "guy" #indiechat -9:45 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling How has the critique process changed for any of you with self publishing? #indiechat -9:45 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling I don't feel like I have time for a 6 month chapter to chapter crit like I used to. #indiechat Not sure anyone does. -9:46 PM Aug 28th, 2012

LawsonWrites @Addison_Moore yes. and i use different readers for each time. By the time the 1st readers see it finished it's a different book #indiechat -9:46 PM Aug 28th, 2012

Addison_Moore @laurapauling *Hugs Laura* #Indiechat -9:46 PM Aug 28th, 2012

KristineAsselin @laurapauling Saw your thread about #betas on #indiechat...I'm about half way. Not that I'm feeling guilty about being slow or anything. :) -9:46 PM Aug 28th, 2012

LawsonWrites @laurapauling what do you mean how? #indiechat -9:46 PM Aug 28th, 2012

overdunne @laurapauling I'm still feeling it out. Today is official epub day on Amazon for debut novel (shameless self promo) so still new! #indiechat -9:47 PM Aug 28th, 2012

Addison_Moore @LawsonWrites Same here. It always keeps morphing. #Indiechat -9:47 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell @laurapauling Time is a factor with indie publishing, but so is quality & I want as many eyes on my work as I can get. #indiechat -9:47 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling @LawsonWrites I find myself not languishing over the opening like I did before querying agents. #indiechat -9:47 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling @overdunne YOu released your novel today? #indiechat -9:48 PM Aug 28th, 2012

LawsonWrites @laurapauling yes! totally! I know exactly what you mean. I now write for the reader not the agent #indiechat -9:48 PM Aug 28th, 2012

overdunne @laurapauling Yes! Today is my book birthday, AND my real birthday! :) :) #indiechat -9:49 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell @overdunne CONGRATS! That's awesome. #indiechat -9:49 PM Aug 28th, 2012

overdunne Mind you, still working with Createspace for the paperback version. #indiechat -9:49 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling @overdunne Okay, share the link and title, please! #indiechat Congrats! -9:49 PM Aug 28th, 2012

Addison_Moore @overdunne Happy double birthday!!!! @laurapauling #Indiechat -9:50 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell @overdunne I did the same thing when I released Destined last year (on my b-day) = double cause to celebrate! #indiechat -9:50 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling @overdunne So cool. Happy Birthday! #indiechat -9:50 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero Going to write a blog post. G'night fellow writers! #indiechat -9:50 PM Aug 28th, 2012

LawsonWrites @overdunne congrats! #indiechat -9:50 PM Aug 28th, 2012

overdunne @JessieHarrell :) Thanks! It's been a super birthday for me. #indiechat -9:50 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell I'm thinking we should have a way for ppl here tonight to swap info if they are looking for betas/CPs. #indiechat -9:51 PM Aug 28th, 2012

patricialynne07 @overdunne Congrats and happy birthday! =D #indiechat -9:51 PM Aug 28th, 2012

chihuahuazero RT @JessieHarrell: I'm thinking we should have a way for ppl here tonight to swap info if they are looking for betas/CPs. #indiechat -9:51 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell feel free to leave a comment on the Indelibles blog under the transcript post if you're looking... #indiechat -9:52 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling @chihuahuazero Good night! Glad you stopped by! #indiechat -9:52 PM Aug 28th, 2012

overdunne It's called TREASURE IN THE FLAME (YA historical fiction/fantasy) and can be found here... http://t.co/MGl2GT9i #indiechat -9:52 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling Good idea. RT @JessieHarrell: feel free to leave a comment on the Indelibles blog under the transcript post if you're looking... #indiechat -9:52 PM Aug 28th, 2012

HeyItsFishy RT @JessieHarrell: feel free to leave a comment on the Indelibles blog under the transcript post if you're looking... #indiechat -9:52 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell http://t.co/iTWtJLBs leave your name, contact and the genre you write #indiechat -9:53 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling RT @overdunne: It's called TREASURE IN THE FLAME (YA historical fiction/fantasy) and can be found here... http://t.co/tlqp6zmD #indiechat -9:53 PM Aug 28th, 2012

LM_Preston Sorry I missed most of #indiechat -9:53 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling @overdunne Sounds terrific. I love treasure maps! #indiechat -9:54 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell @LM_Preston awww... missed you. you were one of my first (& greatest) beta readers. #indiechat -9:54 PM Aug 28th, 2012

laurapauling any other comments or questions about crit partners and/or beta readers? #indiechat -9:55 PM Aug 28th, 2012

IndieAuthorNews INDIE or TRADITIONAL: Should you make the Jump? ? http://t.co/ys7V81ur ? #WritingTips #IndieChat #SelfPub -9:55 PM Aug 28th, 2012

JessieHarrell oh, final tip: find out what the person ur reading for wants. if they don't want line edits, don't waste ur time #indiechat -9:55 PM Aug 28th, 2012