Hi everyone! This is a quick update on the new "Energy" workroom that Nick has put together on skype that I discussed HERE.
In just over two days there are almost 60 people involved in the Energy Workroom and the energy of the room is definitely zinging with people BEing and DOing, let me tell you!! Below is the first list of links that has been posted so far into the room. What I will do is ask the awesome Fastwalker and perhaps an assistant to three, to keep a running list of all the sites that are linked and shared in the room -purdy please! Then I will post the list out weekly so that anyone can check out what's going on, dig in and perhaps take their own ideas soaring.
I haven't had time to review even half of these sites so far, lol, but there is a LOT of interesting things being discussed constantly in the workroom. Some of these sites are advertising products- and that's fine, because you never know where inspiration will come from, know what I mean? Some of you will know some of this information, some of you will find new things to check out. It's all good.
The one thing that I have learned over the past 15 years or so is that when people come together to work on something they are really passionate about, amazing things will happen.
My husband Nick is passionate about building and about energy. He has been reading and researching energy and new technologies for years. Drawing up blueprints, scribbling designs, making notes..... everywhere. The time has come to bring people like Nick together with others out there that are driven to make a change in the world through the brilliance of their brains and the focus of their energy and power of their hearts.
For this moment of now, I've created a new Skype room that Nick will run that will be all about discussing and planning and exchanging ideas in the areas of "New" technologies. Are you interested in "green" or "Free" energy? How about eco farming? Flying cars? Desalination? Waste management? Cleaning the water/air/earth? Are you interested in Magnetics? Are you interested in frequencies? Are you interested in researching ancient artifacts?
Here's the thing: Nick knows some things. I know some things. You know some things. That guy over there knows some things, and that chick over here knows some things. They are all different things, and yet if you put them together, they might just make a whole new thing.... or a whole lot of new things. That's the way a community works- each person brings a piece of their expertise and knowledge to the table and when all the pieces are combined you discover that Joe's experience in auto mechanics combined with Mary's experience in hydroponics, and Bill's experience in magnetics, and Ann's experience in solar energy, and David's experience in power converters.... creates a whole new field of experience that meshes into a new understanding of the issue at hand and that gives way to the creation of something incredible and ground breakingly awesome.
Are you interested?
Then let's gather our knowledge and skills and talk and plan and discuss and work together to be the changes we want to see in the world.
If you want to be part of this community, then let me know on skype and I'll add you to the room, or add Nick as a contact on skype and he'll introduce you to the community.
nickmckenny358 (please add a note about the community so that he knows to add you to the room!)
Homework assignment for this moment- or to use a Heatherism: Do you wanna have some fun?
Opening with Congressmen Merrill Cook, Republican from Utah:
" Let's go to our stand to Honorable Paul Hellyer from Canada, we would give you 20 minutes, sir."
Honorable Paul Hellyer begins his testimony:
"Thank you very much Mr. Chair, and thank you for giving me this opportunity to speak, and thank you Steve (Steven Basset) for inviting me to speak.
My name, as said, is Paul Hellyer, I am a former Minister of Defense for Canada. I served in three governments, during a total of 23.5 years of Parliament. Although as Minister of National Defense, I had sighting reports of U.F.O.'s, I was too busy to be concerned about them because I was trying to unify the Army, Navy, and Air Force into a single Canadian Defense Force, and that itself was a kind-of battle to the finish. So, this was not high on my agenda, but about 10 years ago I started getting interested due to a young man from Ottawa sending me material on the subject. I told him I was too busy to read it, but he had confidence that someday I would. He sent me a copy of Colonel Corso's book, The Day After Roswell. It took me awhile to get around to reading it, but I took it for my summer reading in 2005, and was really impressed with what was contained in it. What I thought to myself was, 'there are huge issues here, HUGE issues, and the American People and the People of the World have a right to know what's going on because they're part of it, it's not just an isolated thing.'
So after confirming the contents of the book, the Retired United States General, I accepted the invitation of Victor Viggiani and his co-hort Mike Byrd, to speak at a symposium at the University of Toronto and I said; "UFO's are as real as the airplanes flying overhead." That gave me the dubious distinction of being the first cabinet member of government rank in the G8 group of countries to say so unequivocally.
(Audience applause)
Since then I have learned alot from many sources, including a number of the fantastic witnesses that we have heard these last four days. They are so outstanding, I was really blown away with them, the amount of information available, and I appreciate every single one of them. But because I am not a ufologist, I'm a politician, there are only a few things that I want to add in that particular realm.
First is in the 1960s, a flotilla of UFO's headed south into NATO territory, and the Commander in Chief of the Supreme Allied Orders(SHAPE) in Europe was naturally very shaken. Fortunately, or maybe Divine Providence, before the panic button was pushed, the flotilla turned around and headed back north. Obviously, they thought maybe they were Russian, and they were very concerned about it. The investigation was launched into this whole subject, and a document was prepared which concluded that at least four species had been visiting earth for 1000s of years, and this is my own view at this stage as well.
Except for that, there are a couple of things that we have talked about that I'd like to refer to, and one is that we refer to them as "They" until this morning when Linda Moulton-Howe, I think she was the first one, actually named three different species. I have brought my latest book called, "Light At The End Of The Tunnel: A Survival Plan For The Human Species", as an aid memoir, and I named five different species here. I am aware of more now, as a matter of fact, I saw a document just a few days ago that mentioned twenty. I think you, Mr. Chairman, might be interested in some of the places they might come from. I have in here, Zeta Reticuli, the Pleiades, Orion, Andromeda, and the Altair star systems. So I do not think we can anymore refer to them as "They", because they are not an amorphous mass. They are different species, and consequently may have different agendas. I don't think we can say they have the same agenda anymore than we can say the United States, China, and Russia have the same agenda. Our real interests may be very similiar, but as of now, our perceived interests are far apart.
One more observation before I begin what I want to say, and that is that we spend a lot of time talking about the 6 year old cadavers, and I was glad to hear Linda (Moulton-Howe) say that their are live ETs on earth at this present time, and at least two of them working with United States Government. Some of the other species that I have learned about not too long ago, was called the Tall Whites, when Paula Harris broke the story just a few years ago. Through her good offices, I had the chance to talk for about three hours with Former Airmen Charles Hall, and listened to this absolutely fascinating story of how he was working with... First of all, he was scared out of his skin, but after that, when he got to know them, how he was working with, and finally they became to trust each othernd have and have a good working relationship with the Tall Whites at the Gunnery Range at Indian Springs, Nevada. These Tall Whites were living on United States Air Force property, and working in cooperation with the United States Air Force and sharing technology with them. He (Charles Hall) wrote a book, incidentally, called "Millenial Hospitality", there are four different versions, but Hall says that "Millenial Hospitality #2" is the best, and that is the one I read, and it is a very interesting read, if you want to get inside the problem of what it is like to bump into these people floating across the terrain in the desert.
Enough on that for now, my interest is in full disclosure. My only caveat is that probably 95-98% full disclosure, I have known of 1 or 2 things that should not be in the public domain, at least not yet, it will be someday I am sure, but maybe not immediatly. But just as some children survive the idea of tooth fairy, and santa claus when they become adult, I think that taxpaying citizens are quite capable of accepting the new and broader reality that we live in a cosmos teeming with life of various sorts. The fact that some civilizations are more advanced than ours, may be humbling, but that could be a necessary step in our survival.
The world is an unholy mess, we have at best until the end of this decade. In my book, I said we have 10 years to stop global warming if we don't want it to be beyond the point of no return. Two years have gone past since it was written, so I say we have until the end of the decade to arrest global warming, yet our leaders don't even talk of it, except in a superficial way. They appear to be more interested in starting wars to control oil, and in effect prolong the gravity of the effect. Of course, even if they took the threat seriously, they wouldn't have the finances to finance the transition from oil to clean energy because we have an infinitely silly banking and financial system in the Western World.
(audience applause)
The United States congress, I regret to say, is partly responsible, and I would be glad to elaborate on this, if you are interested. Finally, they need the technology for clean energy, and it exists, and is kept secret by the same vested interests that control our destiny. Who are these vested interests, and what are they up to?
Well, Senator, you were talking about a military unta, well in my opinion that is true, but I have broadened and deepened the definition to Cabal, and the Cabal comprises members of the three sisters. The Council on Foreign Relations, The Bilderbergers, and The Tri-Lateral Commission, The International Banking Cartel, The Oil Cartel, members of various Intelligence organizations, and select members of the military unta. Together, have become a shadow government of not only the United States, but of much of the Western World. The Council on Foreign Relations is the oldest of the three sisters, and as early as October 1940, years before Germany surrendered to the Allied Armies and to vaporize Hitler's vision of empire, The Councils Economic and Finance group drafted a memorandum outlining a comprehensive policy, quote "to set forth the political, military, territorial, and economic requirements of the United States and its political potential leadership of the non-German world, including the United Kingdom itself, as well as the Western Hemisphere and the Far East."
-Mr. Cook clears his throat-
The council made absolutely no effort to disguise the fact that the purpose of the grand area, and later hegemony, was to support an expanding U.S. economy, and to provide it with raw materials and products for its markets. This was labeled the "National Interest" quoth on quote. It was equally clear that the National Interest was the interest of the ruling elite, whose members comprised of the Council. The real interests of rank and file Americans was never a factor in the equation.
Mr. David Rockefeller was a member of all three of the sisters, and is quoted as saying this in a meeting of the Bilderbergers in Europe; "We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine, and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings, and have respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the likes of publicity during those years. But the world is more sophisticated, and prepared to march toward a world government, a supernational soverignty of an intellectual elite, and world bankers is surely more preferable than the auto-determination practiced in past centuries." He, of course, pretended he didn't say that, but the witness is reported by Daniel Estulin, a thoroughly reliable reporter who has written "The True Story of the Bilderberger Group" and if you really want to get inside of what's been going on there for this long time, that's a good place to go.
So, anyway, you hear what Mr. Rockefeller said, and so there you have it. The aim of the game is a World Government, comprising members of a cabal, who are electedby noone, and accountable to noone, and according to Mr. Rockefeller, the plan is well advanced. Does this help you to understand why our Civil Rights are being taken away from us? I say us, because Canada, too, is included in the grand plan.
A giant leap in the wrong direction followed the end of the Cold War. Noone could have been happier than I was when the Berlin Wall came down on November the 9th, 1989. The elation on our side of the curtain was universal, and very significant on the other side, as one country after another regained its freedom. Nearly everyone believed it was the dawn of a new era of peace and prosperity for people everywhere. There was much talk of a peace dividend. The prospects were dazzling, dazzling in their scope and diversity. It was a unique and God given opportunity for a new braver and fairer world. We blew it! We blew the chance of a lifetime to do good things.
A small group of zealots undermined our golden opportunity to pursue peace , not war, and little did we dream that they had a vastly different vision of the New World Order. Their plan, which is now commonly known as the Project for a New American Century, include prevent of wars, in clear violation of International Law, regime change wherever and whenever the U.S. desires, and if they can get away with it without excessive casualties, of the establishment a kind of economic and cultural hegemony with America acting as "constabulary" quoth on quote, that was their word, globally. This was to be established with out authorit of the United Nations, and without constraint of existing International Treaties. It would involve a military build-up of unprecedented in peace-time history, and could trigger an arms race, which is precisely the opposite to a peace dividend that the world had looked forward to.
The Machiavellianscheme involved Secret Police, the curtailment of Civil Liberties in defiance of the U.S. Constitution, and a morebundt economy operating way below its potential. Exactly those features for which the Soviet Union was held in contempt. The intial draft of the document was so controversial when it was leaked to the New York Times, that it had to be rewritten. It was not changed very much, just the cosmetics, enough to make it politically acceptable.
The document said this: "It may have been easy to persuade President Bush to abandon his stated policy of not getting United States more involved in International Affairs, but persuading the American people would be more difficult. Sophisticated adults would question such a giant sea change of policy." The authors of building America's defenses, strategies, and resources for a New Century recognized the difficulties from the outset, because their document contained the following sentence: "Further the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary changes, its likely to be a long one, absent of some catastrophic and catalyzing event, like a new Pearl Harbor."
It wasn't too long before they got their catastrophic and catalyzing event, terrorist struck the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon in Washington on September the 11th, 2001. Incidentally, they have removed the sentence about Pearl Harbor on the document that you can find on the Internet. Almost the whole world mourned, Canada mourned, the overwhelming majority of Muslims condemned the attacks. My sympathy for the families of the injured and dead was genuine and unwavering to this day.
My sympathy for the United States Government began to grow quite thin, however, when I heard President Bush cite the reasons for the attack. I quote, "Why do they hate us?", he asked rhetorically in an address to the congress. "They hate what they see right here in this chamber, a democratically elected government. Their leaders are self-appointed. They hate our freedoms, our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote, to disassemble, to disagree with each other." I felt sad when I heard the president's word, I assumed that he believed what he was saying, but if that were true he was profoundly ignorant of the real thoughts and feelings of people in other parts of the world. If he wanted to hear the truth, he should have listened to Osama Bin Laden, who was well informed of the kind of orgins of fanatically hatred in the United States, which has lead to such treachery.
This is his [sic](Osama Bin Laden) version of events: "Every Muslim must rise to defend his religion. The wind of faith is blowing, and the wind of change is blowing to remove evil from the pential of Mohammed. Peace be upon him. As to America, I say to you and it's people a few words, I swear to God that America will not live in peace before peace reigns in Palastine, and before all the armies of infidels depart the land of Mohammed. Peace be upon him."
That is clear enough, the dislike of America has nothing to do with Democracy vs. Dictatorship, or wealth, or freedom of religion, or freedom of assembly, it is directly related to American footdragging and stickhandling at the Palestinan question.
-Mr. Cook interrupts Hon. Hellyer to give him two minutes warning.-
In short, American foreign policy was the root of the conflict.
So here we are more than a decade later fighting another war that can't be won. There is no country powerful enough to protect its citizens from fanatical hate, as we learn from the Boston Marathon. The mere attempt to pursue the impossible, pits neighbor against neighbor, and the state power structure against everyone. All of the freedoms won by the millions of men and women who fought and died in World War 2 are being flushed unceremoniously down the drain.
The only hope of peace is to negotiate a settlement, this will require a paradigm shift in America attitudes. It involves a defacto renunciation of the Plan for a New American Energy, and the adoption of a pledge for cooperation with all humankind, to build the kind of world which we are collectively capable of. Young people everywhere need to be challenged by a noble cause, they need to be involved in arresting global warming, creating a banking system that is just and sustainable, and lead the way to the transformation to the new reality that we have to live in harmony with our celestial neighbors, as well as seeking peace on earth.
In a word, we have to become spiritual beings, and practice the ONE tenet that the World's major religions have in common, that is, The Golden Rule.
This is from the late Dr. John Mack, an American Secular Jewish Psychiatrist, who became a world leader interviewee of abductees, or experiencers as he called them, came to this conclusion in a startling book, "Passport To The Cosmos", quote "Although the aliens themselves are not Gods, their behavior is anything but Godlike. Abductees consistently report that the beings seem closer to God than we are, acting as messengers, guardian spirits, or angels, intermediaries between us and the Divine Source."
I originally watched this video quite a while ago, it's older but this shows the movement forward. More and more information is coming out. More and more brilliant people are coming forward with revolutionary ideas, plans and technologies that will make the oil industry (among many others!) obsolete.
Hosted by Bill Jenkins, formerly of ABC Radio, this comprehensive documentary features physicists and inventors who are challenging orthodox science to bring this non-polluting technology forward despite ridicule and suppression. See actual working prototypes that defy classical physics including phenomenal experiments in anti-gravity and the transmutation of metals.
CITIZENS HEARING ON DISCLOSURE ï½» Updates: At the National Press Club, Washington, DC. This is two blocks east of the White House. These hearings are bringing light to the most tightly held secrets
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and the world! It is time for these illegal activities to end!
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I will have the widget to order and watch Sirius up in just a little while, though it will not be active until tomorrow. In the mean time, you can watch the official trailer below!
Synopsis
“Sirius” is a feature length documentary that follows Dr. Steven Greer – an Emergency Medicine doctor turned UFO/ New Energy researcher – as he struggles to disclose top secret information about classified energy & propulsion techniques. Along the way, Dr. Greer investigates new technology and sheds light on criminal suppression. He accumulates over 100 Government, Military, and Intelligence Community witnesses who testify on record about their first-hand experiences with UFOs and with the cover-up.
In the course of his research Dr. Greer is asked to look at an amazing find: a humanoid specimen, 6 inches long from the Atacama Desert. Not until 2012 was he given permission to take bone samples and DNA from the specimen. At that same time a pre-eminent geneticist, hearing of this find, offered to do DNA testing. He enlisted an MD from the same university,- world renowned for his work with skeletal anomalies, to view the xrays and CT scans. Their experise along with Dr. Greer’s expansive knowledge of the subject bring more questions than answers. Where did this “Atacama Humanoid” come from? Are there others like it? What does it say about the origin of the human species?
While on this odyssey, the audience gains a whole new perspective on technology, human evolution, and clandestine organizations who have manipulated and controlled the public for centuries.
The Sirius World Premiere will be held on April 22, 2013in Los Angeles, CA. Click here for more details.
Dr. Greer will give a personal introduction at the film screening in Charlottesville, VA on May 9, 2013. Click here for more details and tickets.
The Earth has been visited by advanced Inter-Stellar Civilizations that can travel through other dimensions faster than the speed of light. They use energy propulsion systems that can bring us to a new era. Humans have also developed these systems but those in power have suppressed them in order to keep us at the mercy of fossil fuels. It is time for you to know…and this documentary will let you in.
Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence (CSETI) is especially interested in the ETI-Human relationship and in the peaceful furtherance of this relationship.
Will see many of you at LA Live Monday- Safe travels!about an hour ago
One Universe- One People. World peace is not enough: It is time for Universal Peace. Let's do it.about an hour ago
Proceeds to fund New Energy research lab. Please let's come together to make a new world liberated from the scourge of oil, poverty and war.about an hour ago
Dr. Steven M. Greer, M.D., is widely regarded as the world’s foremost authority on UFOs and extraterrestrial intelligence, and is the author of four insightful books and multiple DVDs on the UFO/ET subject. eBooks Now Available
CE-5 is a term describing a fifth category of close encounters with Extraterrestrial Intelligence (ETI), characterized by mutual, bilateral communication rather than unilateral contact.
Red Ice Radio show interviewing former Canadian Defence Minister Paul Hellyer . Click HEREto listen to this excellent interview. I've posted interviews with Mr. Hellyer previously on Removing the Shackles HERE .
Paul Hellyer - The Shadow Government, UFOs & Clean EnergySeptember 25, 2012Paul Hellyer is one of Canada’s best known and most controversial politicians. Although Hellyer is best known for the unification of the Canadian Armed Forces and for his 1968 chairmanship of the Task Force on Housing and Urban Development, he has maintained a life-long interest in macroeconomics. Through the years, as a journalist and political commentator, he has continued to fight for economic reforms and has written several books on the subject. At 88, former Canadian Cabinet Minister Paul Hellyer is still active as ever and engaged in a wide variety of world issues, the most urgent of which is the world monetary and financial system. Paul will discuss the conspiracy of the cabal, the shadow government and black operations. He also briefly talks about the UFO phenomena. Then, Paul covers the energy crisis, new clean technologies that are available and the new industry that can result from it. He also offers solutions that he claims would fix our economy.
More information about the Keshe Foundation. Watch & Read, then ask yourself this: is THIS one of the reasons that the US is so determined to destroy Iran? - Free energy means no more relying on Oil, Coal, and Nuclear power- means no more huge lobbying to the government, no more huge payoffs, no more excuses for massive environmental damage.... no more money and power to the cabal that controls the energy industry. - Medical Advancements that will put an end to Big Pharma's monopoly on our "health"- no more huge lobbying to the government, no more huge payoffs, no more excuses for massive health damage caused by their drugs .... no more money and power to the cabal that controls the health industry. I'm not even going to get into the topic of space travel and the military aspect of Keshe's inventions. Iran is not the enemy. The CABAL is the enemy.
Part II: Was US Spy Drone Captured by Iranian Flying Saucer?
Sterling Allan, the founder of PESN, had the opportunity to conduct an hour and a half long interview with Mehran Keshe, the individual who claims to have given Iran the advanced space technology that enabled them to capture a US spy drone. Click here for a report of the interview.
Interview > Listen On December 14, Sterling Allan conducted an interview with M.T. Keshe as part of the Free Energy Now series.
The US spy drone captured by the Iranians. Credit: AFP. See also Video from Iran news.
Transcription
Here's a transcription by Hank Millsof the first portion of the interview. It was hard to transcribe due to the accent differences as well as an intermittent Skype connection. K. Hello?
S. Hello. This is Sterling Allan, how are you doing?
K. Who is speaking?
S. Sterling Allan from PES Network.
K. How are you?
S. Good.
K. We are doing a story in our news about the Drone that was captured in Iran, and the post you put recently on your forum. And I just wanted to get some additional clarification if I could. Do you have a couple minutes?
K. OK. No problem.
S. If I understand correctly, the technology that you say Iranians used to capture that technology, originated with you and your lab, is that correct?
K. Ahhh... you know I told you before that we have transferred our knowledge of space technology to Iran. And at the same time I explained in the forum and in the interviews in the past two years that when these systems are used they block the radar system, and the mass or the size is irrelevant. So, these systems have a total jamming capability to jam radar or any other thing. So, this is exactly what we have been saying for the past two years. This is the capability of space technology. And now you see the results. There is no damage to the craft. There is nothing, just two wings. One of the wings on the left and the right side is cracked, the whole thing is fully intact. Don't forget that the craft did not go for emergency landing, it was picked up and put down. Because if it was an emergency landing or if it had landed without any wheels you would have seen... it would have been crushed all together. So at the height at which it has been picked up and it is still intact, it is untouchable. It is exactly what we described what would happen and now you see the practicality of the use.
S. Is this technology you are talking about making it available to all nations to help eliminate war, is it a technology that could conceivably be used aggressively.....
K. When everyone has it, they can't use it aggressively any more. This is what I have been warning and what I have been telling for past two, three years. This is a new development in space technology. A craft like this cannot be brought down especially at high speed. With a full remote control with two or three satellites locked onto it. What do you call it, being able to land it and take control and land it on it's own the only time we know.... And in the interview I gave to Kim, about six to eight months ago, I said this will be happening, you see this happening now.
S. In this scenario with the drone for example, was it a scenario of the space craft going and intercepting, picking up, and then...
K. I put the knowledge on my forum. It is a pick up and landing. A pick up and drop. You can block, you can cover the space environment, and you take control literally the craft has no more control and no line of communication out side it. We showed the system physically and the weight reduction of three years ago the system..... On the third of December in Belgium in a presentation in front of a hundred and thirty or a hundred and forty people. So we already have shown the physical system in public for the first time this year. And next year we will show a more powerful system.
S. I knew somebody who was going to attend that but thought it had been canceled.
K. Pardon?
S. I know somebody that was going to attend that demonstration in Belgium but thought it was canceled.
K. No, it was not canceled. It was done by Belford group. We did not show the system in Eidhoven. A lot of people... I'll put it on my forum that the gravitational system will not be shown in Eidhoven. A lot of people thought, came thinking they would see a UFO. I said we would not show the technology there because we had to cross borders with nuclear materials, and we could not do so. In Belgium in the restriction I work, I can show what I have. I showed it the following Saturday in a presentation. It was a full packed room. They could not get any more people. They could not get any more chairs into the hall. We asked everybody to put all their mobiles or their cameras or whatever they had, laptops, into a black bag in front of them. That nobody could take pictures, and then when we were sure there were no pictures taken, for an hour and a half we showed the videos. We showed the three kilowatt generator system, and we showed the Oasis system, and we showed the full.... what do you call it.... the gravitational system. And people who they came they looked at it they stood around they watched it. It is the first time we opened it in public and two weeks later you see the American system go down.
S. Ok. What is the present status in terms of the prognosis for bringing an energy technology to the marketplace?
K. We are selling a lot... by the end of next year, within the next twelve months we start delivering the units which we received orders for to the people who paid the deposit. They will be informed to pick it up. And we are literally commercializing next year. We are now short. We showed the physical system with it's stand and it's frame work in the presentation in what you call it, December. Now the new generation is going to be much much more powerful, simpler, and smaller.
S. The present one that people are paying for with delivery in the next twelve months, what is the power output and price?
K. At the moment the price is five thousand Euro, three to four kilowatt, and the price will go up to twenty thousand Euro for three to four kilowatt in the next couple of days. We wanted to put it up from the first of December, but there is so much orders coming though we will probably hold it back until the first of January at that price. And then it goes up to twenty thousand equal to what is it, three to four kilowatts at the moment. If you buy a solar system, what do you call it, when they put on the roof, at the moment in Belgium it is nineteen and a half thousand Euro for three to four kilowatt. Where you only produce energy in the daylight, this system is three to four kilowatt twenty four hours a day. And so it is very cheap for what it offers. And there is a ten kilowatt for the American market which is at the moment twenty thousand Euro, and will go up to fifty thousand Euro.
S. What is the difference between the twenty thousand Euro and the fifty thousand Euro?
K. It is the same system, but we kept the price down for introduction, and now we have met the orders we were looking for, at the same time we are opening an institute to start teaching the space technology and the medical side and everything else. So we financed it through our own system. We give you a cheap system so people get something they have never had before, they pay for it, and that pays for the institute and the university to be paid for. We are commercializing for our own benefit.
S. How many units do you expect to sell in the first six months, deliver.
K. We already have put the order out for about six months ago for ten thousand units, and that is why we are going up to a different rate now. I have been giving lectures for the past maybe eight nine months, every week once or twice around Europe. People see people know and understand the technology and we are fully booked for the next two or three months, giving lectures all over Europe. We do not have a problem. People understand it they see it they comprehend the science behind it because I teach in my presentations. People understand the basics. So they understand what it is on the medical side, we have shown such a huge, what do you call it, gains. We show the people the guy who has been paralyzed for fifteen years without being able to walk or talk for twenty years, now he has learned to cycle. We are putting some eight fifteen different videos from different people. The technology has opened up we are getting support from everywhere. The most probably we will show a new thing very soon that will go on the internet. We are going to bring this... different aspects of technology, governmental organizations, private organizations around the world. They come and they see.
S. So if somebody...
K. Energy is not our game. Energy is something there that is a byproduct of the process. But it allows us now to open the university in which we have found the premises, and it will open in the next few months.
S. If a government or industrial entity came to you to enter a commercial agreement or some kind of contract, what would they be able to see by way of demonstration?
K. We will demonstrate, we don't need anything. We commercialize everything though our own foundation. We are cash rich, we don't need people to pay us money to be part of it. We develop it we allow other people to have agency, or be part of its development. We already have came to a level. Water production. In the next six months you can buy units that produce water out of the air. So, but we do all the research. The people who come they do the commercialize or the agency work for it.
S. So what I'm asking, lets say for example someone from the United States wanted to be a distributor of this technology for the United States. What would be the process you would go through with them?
K. We don't need them. The foundation does it's own distribution. We manufacture, the clients who buys it, ordered to pick up, we tell them where and they pay for the delivery. This is how the first ten thousand units were done. We produce. We have the facility. We have places where we can produce our systems. And they just get a what you call it confirmation that their units are ready. They pick them up themselves.
S. The confirmation for the first ten thousand units is supposed to come in the next twelve months that they can pick them up?
K. Yes. Start delivering hopefully in the first half of next year. The initial units will go out. They are sealed, they cannot be tampered with. No one can break into it to see how it works. They have a locking to it. We have people wanting to buy five pieces or ten pieces, we block. Everything is capped through banking and all the ways we can check. We are not there to compete, we are there to show we can do. It is a big difference.
S. Do you, as you know everyone is looking for energy solutions. As this takes off and people start seeing products powering homes and businesses, I would imagine the demand will increase substantially. Are you in the position to be able to handle...
K. We handle back to the governments. Whatever nation comes we pack technology to the governments. Don't forget we are based and I work totally on one mission and the foundation. We give the knowledge to the nations, to the people. So if that's what I said, even in Europe we hand over the people who bought the system to the Federal governments, to the governments of the nations. Because if you sell one million units in a country of ten million or fifty million, the governments will lose their revenue from the taxation of fuel or whatever. Who is going to pay for the hospitals? Who is going to pay for cleaning the roads? Who is going to pay for the teachers? So our technology being free should not become damaging to society. People have a wrong idea about free energy. The minute you bring it out that it is going to be free, governments will tax it. We hand over the whole thing to the governments. We are not here to disturb the structure of the society. The young have to be taught and the old have to be looked after. That is part of the structure we work. People who think they will have a free energy unit and will not have to pay anything anymore....
So instead of them coming after us afterwards, we offer the nationals and the governments how much are they going to pay for the system they bought, that it can be kept and schools can be kept open, and roads can be cleaned, and the old can be looked after. This is a wrong concept. Everyone wants free energy. But in the end you have to pay for it. If you don't pay for it you need to be look after. When the government does not have the money it is the situation in Europe. Who is going to pay for the services. Who is going to pay for it to be kept. This free, have it all, even the systems are there to do, we are not the only one. There are other organizations like us who are developing technologies.
S. That is what taxation is for...
K. You pay taxes on the fuel you use. You pay taxes even on the electric cars. You plug it somewhere. You have to generate you have to produce to charge your battery up. You pay for taxes on electricity you use to charge it up. When a system like ours comes in, which you don't have any material to burn, and you tap into the universal system of energy, then you don't need to buy anything. Fueling up this system... every thirty to fifty years... but we are not paying taxes for what you are using. Who is going to pay for the taxes? Who is going to pay for the services which we like to have?
S. There are still other things you can pay taxes on. You can pay taxes on the sale of the unit, you can pay taxes...
K. That goes to the government. I think that we have discussed with some governments or officials in the past few months. There is very much a line of thinking... if it is picks up the way we think it is going to do, it is like how you pay taxes on your car. You pay taxes for consumption or the size of the engine. Like in Belgium, if you have a small engine you pay six or seven hundred. If you have a big engine you pay two or three thousand Euros per year. These units I think will be taxed on the same basis. The government will tax you on the size of the units you take. You don't need to tap into the main anymore. If you sell so much energy government can't buy your energy back, because they have enough themselves. So it comes to taxing at the point of unit per year. The people have totally wrong idea about free energy. Even the windmills, even the what you call it, solar cells... everything in time they gave the bonuses for people to get it. But in time they will be taxed for it. The structure of society in the west is that it cannot live having everything free and don't pay for it.
S. When I personally use... I run a website where we use free energy routinely. By free energy I do not mean the energy itself being free, but meaning that the energy that comes off the design.
K. If ten thousand people using little units they make or whatever, it is a different story than if you have a lot of people in the population using the system. If you go from lets say a million houses in Belgium, maybe fifty or a hundred two hundred people generate energy in a different way. But mainly the rest rely on national grid.
S. Let me finish my point please. I want to revise something you said earlier. My understanding of free energy means that the energy source that you are tapping into is free. Solar is free, the sun is free, wind is free, geothermal is free, the device is not free. Of course the device will cost money, but you are harvesting inexhaustible energy. So when we say free energy, we are saying that the fuel itself being free.
K. I am talking about both. When you have free energy. Zero energy, zero payment for fuel, then you cannot have a zero taxation on it.
S. I am just... it seems to me that one of the biggest problems right now is governments that have gotten way to big. They need to come back down to size. They have plenty of sources of taxation revenue from sales, and other things. Just because energy is gradually taken away as a revenue source, they should gradually pair down on size because they become, in my opinion government should be reduced, not increased. They are too big.
K. I don't know. Maybe you are right. But I don't know. The way I see it and the people I talk to in different levels... Their opinion is that even though you will have a free material to start or have to run your system, at the end of it your fuel is free. But you will pay for it somewhere else to your government.
S. Yeah, um. So when is, do you have another conference or presentation scheduled in the future.
K. I give a talk. My last talk of this year is this Friday, at the hall with three hundred and fifty people or seats. Then we take five weeks off, because I am finishing the book number four and five the institute. And then we start on the twenty third of January and more or less one or two lectures a week. I give a talk in Germany in the 19th of February. I give a talk in Holland with two hundred people again. It goes all the way to June, we are giving books all the time. For the past eight months we have given a public talk at least one Friday a week, sometimes two talks a week. But so this is public, and sometimes with the medical side is to a wide audience.
S. Do you have a place on your website where people can see the upcoming speeches?
K. The new website.. at the bottom of the... what you call it, first page it shows the upcoming presentations. We will come back in January, because now we have our own auditorium.
S. Is that at KesheFoundation.com?
K. Yes, Keshefoundation.com the new website which is being put up. At the bottom of the page all the presentations where and what. If there is just a name it means it is private. The people who organize it they have the people who they want to be present. Otherwise, the public ones that are announced, we usually give one or two public presentations a month. Private will usually be between thirty and fifty. The one this Friday is in a public hall.
S. I am on your website and I am not finding something for events, there is latest news articles, most read.....
K. Just scroll to the bottom, presentations. Go right to the bottom of the page, Keshe Foundation the page is blocks of squares.
S. Not in the English section, I don't see that.
K. Ok, let me get on it. Just give me two seconds. I will be there.
S. Ok, I see, presentations under articles most read.
K. Everything is there as we speak.
S. Ok.
K. We keep very well people informed about how we have been whatever, sometimes when there are a lot of these presentations they are restricted by the organizers. What they want to talk about their presentation. The presentation this Friday is about energy. The presentation in April is about medical applications. I know there are two or three more for Holland. Again, for medical only. About a hundred and fifty per presentation. I cannot do more than about a hundred and fifty people maximum.
S. Ok. Of all the people who have been involved with you what would you say is the best third party endorsement of your work? A government or third party institution?
K. What do you mean?
S. If someone wanted to get verification of your technology through a third party entity, who would you recommend they contact?
K. They contact us. We get a lot of lunatics that want verification. We verify to the people who are bona fide. People who we know. We are talking to the people can make a difference. We don't say who and where, but the people who can make the difference, they see our presentation, we demonstrate, we show them, we let them play. We have a guy who says he is a minister of the Earth and has been everywhere on the internet putting keshescum.com, and he says he is a foreign minister of the Earth. He doesn't see a thing, he is going to do this and that. We don't listen to these things. I have a program for past five years, ten years and I am doing exactly up to date.
People who want to see it, who can, that are bona fide people we show them everything. We did the same thing with the Iranian government, we did the same thing with the Belgium government. Belgian governments and offices in different shape, nano, nuclear, they have been through our technology fully. We opened all the books with them. We never disclosed, now we started disclosing who. Even one of the companies who had full access to us has been... the British government for defense. Everything, these people who talk, is the people who do not understand, who is on a different side of the fence. We have been open. I talk to officials from Belgium for four months every day with scientists and management team putting together, and they say yes, they want to make this system. We have documents we can show. The same I did with Iran, the same I did with another country. And now we are negotiating with two or three other countries for a different part of the technology. Whoever comes... we do whatever we do, and we will keep on track where we are going.
S. Earlier you mentioned on the product that is available, the three to four kilowatt system, that you are taking deposits. How much of a deposit are you taking up front?
K. We are taking five hundred Euro deposit for a five thousand Euro product. And the deposits are all kept in a secure deposit account in the bank. So it is not touched by us, it is kept safe and secure. If we don't deliver the money would be returned. So it is not that we take the money and run. Someone made a complaint, a vicious one, to the government, two governments went to the bank and saw the deposits. We are not playing games. Whatever deposits comes in straight away are banked into a deposit account for twelve months, which by the end of twelve months we don't pay, the money goes back to the people who took it, or that paid for it. All these things are, we have covered ourselves, we will not be tempted, we will not allow nothing to tempt us.
S. You already said you sold all ten thousand?
K. We have sold, we don't give figures, but believe me everyday I receive deposits, everyday we receive confirmation. We have been selling it for six months now, we put an offer out six months ago. A lot of people are buying the ten kilowatt with the two thousand Euro deposit. A lot of people are buying ten kilowatt because they said three kilowatt is not enough. Because at the moment for a three kilowatt they pay twenty thousand Euro in Europe, now they get a ten kilowatt for the same price. Put it this way, you know Ever Ready battery? Ever Ready battery is one of the big suppliers that produce windmills electricity in America, they sell for thirteen and a half thousand Euro, and fifteen thousand dollars for a windmill. So if you can have a ten kilowatts for thirty thousand dollars at the moment, you know whose buying, no one will refuse taking it.
S. And I meant to mention at the opening that I made this call through Skype, and I have my Skype setup to record the conversations. Would it be permissible for you if I made this interview available to our audience?
K. No problem. I knew you were doing it. That is why I was answering you correctly. I know how you work. I know you very well. I have had four interviews with you. I respect your integrity. We have had our ways of falling out, but you know how I am. I am very correct, I am very precise. I don't say things to please people, I do things to be correct. Why I warn, for nearly two years. You were the first one I've talked with about the Iranian space program. Now you have seen the result. You announced on 16th of March of this year, now six months later you seen it. You were the first one I even sent you the videos of the first weight reduction, two or three years ago, with private access. You know we are correct.
We are correct and that is why we don't let individuals or people with multiorganizations come in and try to tell us what to do. When I see things I do it. And because we have cash independent it means no one dictate to us what to do. We don't need people to give us money to dictate us what to do. We receive finance, we have supporters, people supported us in the background. I am thankful for them. They are getting paid for their support. Now the foundation has it's own total independence. We kept ourselves independent, and now we stay independent. No one can tell us, but we offer our technology to governments, because this is a change of faith. It is not just selling one screw, or I'm not just giving you a free energy system, it is space, it is new materials, it is medical applications, it is the system, it is the total new production of food. We are running trials on food production, so this Keshe Foundation is not doing one issue. People just focus on what they like to see. You have to look at the full spectrum of what we are doing. And thanks we received support now from several governments that are prepared to support us.
There are people who are prepared to come in because they have seen us, we don't shake and shiver. And there I as far as can be done, I teach, we put we ask from universities in Belgium, Germany, and to give us accommodation so we can start our university. They refused. Now we found we can do it somewhere else.
S. I remember something you said in an interview that we had in the past. That you said something to the effect that all of these technologies were motivated by the bottom line goal that you have of enabling astronauts to live safely in space. So that is a multifaceted task. It is not just propulsion, it is not just energy. It involved food, it involves support...
K. The one thing that we can say. Keshe Foundation is a space technology development. For the first time we have shown this we have allowed other universities to qualify our discoveries. Now we are ready complete. To be independent when we go to space. We have our own lift system and motion. We have our own energy production. Absorbing radiation in magnetic field. We produced materials in 2004 that were tested by Belgium confirming the new discovery. We have the reports of it. On the 8th of November 2011 NASA has announced a discovered a material which we discovered five years ago. They published a paper. I wrote to NASA, I said we already have this paper, this material. So we have, and they said to this material they can go for all sorts of spectrums, magnetic field absorption. We already done that five years ago. With the material we developed we can produce energy, we can produce food, we can produce light, we can produce water. So, with our space technology we are totally impendent from coming back to Earth.
Or depending now NASA is planning to go to Mars. They have to calculate everything. With this technology we developed we do not need to calculate anything. They have to calculate how many headache tablets, how much water, they have to recycle, they have to have enough water that they use when they are coming back. Now we can produce water from magnetic field environments of the universe. I will tell you something an agreement has been reached in the past hours that the first water units will be developed in the next six months for commercialization. What this means... We absorb moisture from the environment, water drops, directly for consumption.
The agreement has been made and negotiations have been going on for a few months. We will go ahead for the first commercialization in the next few months.
S. Now when you talk about extracting water from the air, I know there is a lot of companies that I've encountered over the past few years who do that through basically a condensation kind of process.
K. No no this is not condensation. This is creating magnetic field of the water the way we work, we create the magnetic gravitational of water constant. Which means you are only creating water. You only pick up the moisture of the water. With condensation if you do you have to have an air flow. You pass the airflow though the system you get water. We developed that technology with our free energy system. This is a totally different approach and departure from the old way.
S. Would you consider this a dehumidification process?
K. We take water because we did that condensation. When you do condensation from the air you get water. You get a lot of rubbish with it. Even get lead or oil on it. Because when you do condensation water pollution in the air will come with the water. This way there is no pollution attached to the water.
S. So it's drawing water and water only from the surroundings?
K. Yes. From the moisture in the air.
S. How do you do that in space where you do not have water to harvest?
K. You go to the plasma technology. That is a different approach all together. If you go on my website or if you go in the book you will see a torch that is lit. That torch absorbs all radiations from the environment, all magnetic fields from the environment, you convert that into energy and matter. We shown this physically how it is done. At the same time we even showed it in Eidhoven. During the presentation people were so crazy they did not understand it. But it is in the book and on the website. You can convert the CO2 at room temperature to solid matter that you can eat as a food, but you can add some things to it. Which we are running clinical trails. We are testing it to see how it will go.
S. Is it a form of alchemy?
K. It is not. Actually, someone sent me an email and I checked. It was very interesting, in 1925, somebody wrote a letter it's called.... to Einstein... Einstein rewrote his paper, he corrected it, he sent it back in German language to him. It was presented and then Noble Prize of 2010 went to the scientist who tried to prove what Einstein said in 1925 that gas can be changed into matter at minus 170 degrees. All we done, now we changed the gases into a solid at room temperature with a new understanding. So what we say people have won Noble Prize for it at 170 degrees, we have brought the temperature up to room temperature. We are not talking, that is why we give references. The same thing about the material I told you NASA announced and said they have a new material they call it developed a new black material which can absorb. Just go to the NASA publication of 8th of November this year. We had this material six years ago.
In a way we are very much years ahead of other people what they are trying to do. It is not alchemy. Up to now we have three state of matter, four state of matter. One was solid, liquid, and gas. Then they said plasma was the fourth state of matter. The fourth state of matter is what I call gas, gas at nano-state. Because the liquid, solid, and gas are environmentally dependent. Now that we understand the creation of reality and field of magrav. This is internal magnetic field, internal gravitational field of atom itself which dictates the structure of the atom. So you can have Co2 as a solid at minus 400 degrees and can have a solid at 1,000 or 10,000 degrees. Because we now have the understanding you can change the gravitational magnetic field of the atom, and the atom can be solid at any pressure, temperature. If you say this is crazy just think one second. Just pinch your own body. We are made of gases oxygen, nitrogen, carbon, and oxygen. The four masses. We should be a balloon. But our body in Earth's gravitational system has learned to change gases into solids, which is our body. So now for the first time we learn how our body changes matter energy into gas, and gas into solid which is our body. This is a new discovery. This is what we did not know. That is why we can sit in front of a fire, very hot, but do not disappear, do not evaporate. Because our body works on its internal gravitational magnetic field of the matter. So this is the fourth state of matter we discovered, and it is important because I can take the CO2 you breath in space, convert it to solid, and feed you with the energy you need. I do not need to carry storage, because you digestive system needs something to go inside it.
