BiblioCrunch We're honored to be today's guest for #indiechat. Topic: The importance of creating a good publishing team. Join... http://t.co/ljspR0ju -5:21 PM Aug 14th, 2012
miralsattar Opening up #author registration today so folks from #indiechat can check it out http://t.co/xn6kMXb1 #bookpub -5:30 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch Opening up #author registration today so folks from #indiechat can check it out http://t.co/4DF5rpuI #bookpub -5:31 PM Aug 14th, 2012
IndelibleWriter Don't forget #indiechat tonight at 9pm EST. Putting together your own publishing team with guest! See you there! -6:33 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @lorcadamon p.s join in today on #indiechat! We're talking about how to build your publishing team -6:34 PM Aug 14th, 2012
LornaSuzuki RT @BiblioCrunch: @lorcadamon p.s join in today on #indiechat! We're talking about how to build your publishing team -6:35 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn RT @IndelibleWriter: Don't forget #indiechat tonight at 9pm EST. Putting together your own publishing team with guest! See you there! -7:41 PM Aug 14th, 2012
srjohannes 2nite 9pm est join us for #indiechat @bibliocrunch will be discussing "importance of building great pubbing team (ie covers, editing, etc) -8:23 PM Aug 14th, 2012
miralsattar RT @srjohannes: 2nite 9pm est join us for #indiechat @bibliocrunch will be discussing "importance of building great pubbing team (ie covers, editing, etc) -8:25 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch RT @srjohannes: 2nite 9pm est join us for #indiechat @bibliocrunch will be discussing "importance of building great pubbing team (ie covers, editing, etc) -8:26 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @srjohannes looking forward to it! #indiechat -8:27 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch RT @LornaSuzuki: RT @BiblioCrunch: @lorcadamon p.s join in today on #indiechat! We're talking about how to build your publishing team -8:56 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio Hi everyone! #indiechat -9:00 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Battista_j Hi all! #indiechat -9:01 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn Hi indiechatters! #indiechat -9:01 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch HI! *waves* RT @KatGirl_Studio Hi everyone! #indiechat -9:01 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling Yay! Time for #indiechat. Looking forward to what @BiblioCrunch has to say! -9:01 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch RT @laurapauling: Yay! Time for #indiechat. Looking forward to what @BiblioCrunch has to say! -9:02 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch Super excited to be here today! #indiechat -9:03 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio today's topic looks great! #indiechat -9:03 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @BiblioCrunch Could you explain the open invite I saw tweeted earlier? #indiechat -9:04 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch So what was your biggest challenge when putting together a publishing team for your book? #indiechat -9:04 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @BiblioCrunch For me, finding an affordable editor while just starting out. #indiechat -9:05 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @BiblioCrunch Okay, wait, forget that. It was learning to format. #indiechat -9:05 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn I'm a little unclear on the term "publishing team" - are we talking cover artist, editor, formatter, all independent? #indiechat -9:05 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @laurapauling Yes! @BiblioCrunch provides a platform for authors to find talent and hire accordingly based on their budget #indiechat -9:05 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @BiblioCrunch Thanks. So we create an account? #indiechat -9:06 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @susankayequinn That's the impression I got. #indiechat -9:06 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch We vet all #authors and #book publishing professionals who join b/c quality is what separated a 'good' #indiechat book from 'bad' -9:06 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn @BiblioCrunch Is it like a marketplace? Or more of a crowdsource/bidding kind of thing? #indiechat -9:07 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @BiblioCrunch finding an editor and copyeditor that understood my voice and my learning disability. #indiechat -9:07 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @laurapauling so for tonight, we've opened up the platform for today for any #indiechat authors to join http://t.co/4DF5rpuI -9:07 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Battista_j @BiblioCrunch @laurapauling I used them to find my editor. Love her! Highly recommend the platform!#indiechat -9:07 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling RT @BiblioCrunch: @laurapauling so for tonight, we've opened up the platform for today for any #indiechat authors to join http://t.co/4DF5rpuI -9:07 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch Yep! RT @laurapauling @BiblioCrunch Thanks. So we create an account? #indiechat -9:07 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch For me, it was #coverdesign and #editing RT @laurapauling @BiblioCrunch Okay, wait, forget that. It was learning to format. #indiechat -9:08 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch RT @Battista_j: @BiblioCrunch @laurapauling I used them to find my editor. Love her! Highly recommend the platform!#indiechat -9:08 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn RT @BiblioCrunch: so for tonight, weve opened up the platform for today for any #indiechat authors to join http://t.co/S7WhlsNc #indiechat -9:08 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @BiblioCrunch you vet us? #indiechat -9:08 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch More of a marketplace RT @susankayequinn @BiblioCrunch Is it like a marketplace? Or more of a crowdsource/bidding kind of thing? #indiechat -9:09 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn @BiblioCrunch I can see vetting publishing professionals, but how do you vet authors? #indiechat -9:09 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @susankayequinn We don't want freelancers competing against each other, so we changed that #indiechat. Should be all about the book -9:09 PM Aug 14th, 2012
MichWritesBooks RT @IndelibleWriter: Don't forget #indiechat tonight at 9pm EST. Putting together your own publishing team with guest! See you there! -9:10 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch Yes. :) We make everyone fill out why they want to join RT @KatGirl_Studio @BiblioCrunch you vet us? #indiechat -9:10 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @BiblioCrunch oh when? what do you mean? #indiechat -9:10 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @BiblioCrunch Is this to avoid spammers? Or do you look at an author's sales. #indiechat -9:11 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @susankayequinn Vetting authors means that the professionals who provide these services also get quality clients #Indiechat -9:11 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @BiblioCrunch Oh I feel so shiny =^.^= Apparently I made the cut. #indiechat -9:11 PM Aug 14th, 2012
authorchristier RT @IndelibleWriter: Don't forget #indiechat tonight at 9pm EST. Putting together your own publishing team with guest! See you there! -9:11 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn @BiblioCrunch So you're looking for authors that want services, not looking for business for themselves? #indiechat -9:12 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @BiblioCrunch So did you start this up? Why don't you give us a little history? #indiechat -9:12 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch : ) RT @KatGirl_Studio @BiblioCrunch Oh I feel so shiny =^.^= Apparently I made the cut. #indiechat -9:12 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch RT @susankayequinn: @BiblioCrunch So you're looking for authors that want services, not looking for business for themselves? #indiechat -9:12 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @susankayequinn Actually, we found a lot of authors are also looking for work so added a #both category #indiechat -9:13 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @laurapauling Yes, I started @BiblioCrunch. I used to work in publishing for several years (@TIME to be specific) #indiechat -9:13 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn @BiblioCrunch Got it! Some authors are also editors, etc. #indiechat -9:14 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch And I saw that people were buying books based on news events or trends (key figure dying, vampires, etc) #indiechat -9:14 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch So I pitched the idea to my bosses at @TimeInc that we should be collectively publishing books based on all this content we have #Indiechat -9:15 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch Realized that there was a shortage of #tools and #resources for people looking to publish books if you were not part of pub co #indiechat -9:15 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn @bibliocrunch I may be in the market for a dev. editor at some point. That's serious $$, tho. Can you give estimates of range? #indiechat -9:15 PM Aug 14th, 2012
RyanCaseyBooks I think a great editor and cover are the two crucial components of a publishing team. Formatting can be learned via @GuidoHenkel #indiechat -9:16 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch And I discovered #indiepublishing and #selfpub and it's one of the most exciting spaces to be in right now. #indiechat -9:16 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @BiblioCrunch I agree. A lot of my more recent clients were indie or from smaller new pubs. #indiechat -9:18 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @susankayequinn really good dev #editors charge 40-60/hr and can do 1-5pages an hour #indiechat -9:18 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn Agreed. @RyanCaseyBooks I think a great editor&cover are the 2 crucial components of a publishing team.Formatting can be learned #indiechat -9:18 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @susankayequinn but I've seen people work on various budgets and seen a few hundred dollars to high 4 figures. #indiechat -9:19 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Froze8 @BiblioCrunch Excited that Bibliocrunch in on #indiechat found my new job here guys :) -9:19 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch RT @KatGirl_Studio: @BiblioCrunch I agree. A lot of my more recent clients were indie or from smaller new pubs. #indiechat -9:19 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @Froze8 What's your new job? #indiechat -9:19 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch RT @Froze8: @BiblioCrunch Excited that Bibliocrunch in on #indiechat found my new job here guys :) -9:19 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn @BiblioCrunch Yup, lot-o-$$. Which is why most indie authors use critique swapping instead, I think. #indiechat -9:19 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @RyanCaseyBooks yes both are extremely important. #indiechat -9:19 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Addison_Moore RT @BiblioCrunch: And I discovered #indiepublishing and #selfpub and it's one of the most exciting spaces to be in right now. #indiechat -9:20 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @Froze8 hey hey =^.^= #indiechat -9:20 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch RT @susankayequinn @BiblioCrunch Yup, lot-o-$$. Which is why most indie authors use critique swapping instead, I think. #indiechat -9:20 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @susankayequinn Which I LOVE. Thing the swapping idea is brilliant #indiechat and adding that feature soon! -9:20 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Froze8 @laurapauling I'm working as a Marketing Associate for @BiblioCrunch, found them on #indiechat got a trial job and landed a job :) -9:20 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Addison_Moore @RyanCaseyBooks Exactly! @GuidoHenkel #indiechat -9:20 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @Froze8 Awesome! Sounds like a terrific opportunity! #indiechat -9:21 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn ya if I run into a snag I just bounce ideas off my fiance. #indiechat -9:21 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch I'm pretty good at #tech and #writing and have been able to barter than for awesome legal services and other stuff #indiechat -9:21 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch RT @Froze8: @laurapauling I'm working as a Marketing Associate for @BiblioCrunch, found them on #indiechat got a trial job and landed a job :) -9:21 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Froze8 @KatGirl_Studio Hey Kat! Missed chatting with you! How goes the book? #indiechat -9:21 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch Here's a work in progress pricing guide for #bookpub that we are working on http://t.co/Pq3gJk4a #indiechat -9:21 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn So many creative people in the indie world, it's a fantastic source to tap for swapping services. #indiechat -9:21 PM Aug 14th, 2012
RyanCaseyBooks So easy to cut corners but a great editor is so, so crucial. Recommend 99designs for an unconventional design route. #indiechat -9:22 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Froze8 @laurapauling It really is. I'm excited to become more of a marketer from my personal assistant background. A good change :) #indiechat -9:22 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @Froze8 ya sorry I'm been so busy with wedding stuff i missed the last few weeks of chat. #indiechat -9:22 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn @KatGirl_Studio My husband's good for business ideas and keeping me from climbing the walls. Not so much editing. LOL #indiechat -9:22 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Battista_j @BiblioCrunch @susankayequinn Oh, can't wait! #indiechat -9:22 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn RT @BiblioCrunch: Heres a work in progress pricing guide for #bookpub that we are working on http://t.co/w1DF7zpm #indiechat -9:23 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Froze8 @KatGirl_Studio I understand, I've missed the last few too with summer stuff. Still getting into the swing of things #indiechat -9:23 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @Froze8 it' about 80% done. I'm way behind but I didn't know I'd be getting married when we planned the launch. #indiechat -9:23 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch I've also found Meetups to be super awesome! You can organize one in your city and swap services #indiechat -9:23 PM Aug 14th, 2012
RyanCaseyBooks @Addison_Moore Reading Henkel's formatting guide is 2 hours well spent. Unnecessary expense saved! Well worth a read. #indiechat -9:23 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn mine's the complete opposite lol. #indiechat -9:24 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn Nice! @BiblioCrunch: Ive also found Meetups to be super awesome! You can organize one in your city and swap services #indiechat -9:24 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @B@RyanCaseyBooks Do you mean his series of blog posts? #indiechat -9:24 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Froze8 @RyanCaseyBooks Amen to the editing being crucial. So many books have great potential but need to follow through with this #indiechat -9:24 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @RyanCaseyBooks @Addison_Moore I learned to format on http://t.co/8LiQvaik #indiechat best 20/month I ever spent! -9:24 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @RyanCaseyBooks what kind of formatting? For print or eBook? #indiechat -9:24 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn @RyanCaseyBooks Do you have a link for Henkel's formatting guide? #indiechat -9:24 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn @KatGirl_Studio I was an engineer when he married me. He's still wondering what happened. :) #indiechat -9:24 PM Aug 14th, 2012
AlanKealey EDITING - Why NOT Do-It-Yourself...? Great article ? http://t.co/hpgpvC3n ? on Indie Author News. #Writing #WritingTips #IndieChat -9:25 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling My husband falls asleep within 5 minutes no matter what he's reading. #indiechat @KatGirl_Studios @susankayequinn -9:25 PM Aug 14th, 2012
RyanCaseyBooks @BiblioCrunch @Addison_Moore Will investigate, sounds great to me! #indiechat -9:25 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch We did a really fun meetup in NY and we had 35 authors come and network with each other #indiechat -9:25 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Froze8 @KatGirl_Studio That's okay. I'd rather wait than have you rush. I'm just very excited for it :) #indiechat -9:25 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn RT @BiblioCrunch@RyanCaseyBooks @Addison_Moore I learned to format on http://t.co/XuBfFq6u #indiechat best 20/month I ever spent! #indiechat -9:25 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @BiblioCrunch ya I learned to use InDesign using one of their books; they're great! #indiechat -9:25 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @RyanCaseyBooks @Addison_Moore Plus it's better b/c you can do live examples and download them. #indiechat -9:25 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @BiblioCrunch Isn't http://t.co/gVtgPm1H mainly for formatting with Indesign though? #indiechat -9:26 PM Aug 14th, 2012
RyanCaseyBooks @KatGirl_Studio Just eBook with this guide. Google 'Guido Henkel Formatting' if you fancy giving it a go! #indiechat -9:26 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @Froze8 =^.^= I'm also planing all the new art for the trailers and covers. #indiechat -9:26 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn @laurapauling My hubs doesn't want me to write more than one book a year, because that's all he can manage to read. LOL! #indiechat -9:26 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @KatGirl_Studio Wow! Sounds like a lot of work but fun creative work! #indiechat -9:27 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch That's where I found Sigl RT @laurapauling @BiblioCrunch Isn't http://t.co/8LiQvaik mainly for formatting with Indesign though? #indiechat -9:27 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @susankayequinn My hub waits for the audio! #indiechat -9:27 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @RyanCaseyBooks Oh that's ok I can already code in 4 computer languages plus eBooks. But thanks. #indiechat -9:27 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @laurapauling which? #indiechat -9:28 PM Aug 14th, 2012
RyanCaseyBooks @Froze8 Totally. Even 1,000 word works need editing, so 100,000 certainly need some tidying up, at structural and line levels. #indiechat -9:28 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @KatGirl_Studio All the trailers and covers. :) #indiechat -9:28 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch WOW RT @KatGirl_Studio @RyanCaseyBooks Oh that's ok I can already code in 4 computer languages plus eBooks. But thanks. #indiechat -9:28 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Addison_Moore @laurapauling We have the same husband. ;) @KatGirl_Studios @susankayequinn #indiechat -9:29 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @laurapauling Oh yes. Fun but hard work too. But it's also what I do for my job so. #indiechat -9:29 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @Addison_Moore I don't get offended. :) #indiechat -9:29 PM Aug 14th, 2012
RyanCaseyBooks @KatGirl_Studio That's awesome. I'm a little bit in admiration right now. ;) #indiechat -9:29 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @BiblioCrunch ya i was a New Media major before i switched to Illustration. #indiechat -9:29 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @BiblioCrunch What do we do first after we create an account? #indiechat -9:30 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch Formatting is huge thing too #indiechat. I've seen Big Six publishers with gaping holes or have books that don't work across devices -9:30 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @RyanCaseyBooks What can I say, I like to learn things. #indiechat -9:30 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @RyanCaseyBooks I used 99designs for my logo! #indiechat. -9:30 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Froze8 @KatGirl_Studio Any Travis? ;) #indiechat -9:30 PM Aug 14th, 2012
LM_Preston #indiechat I'm late but glad I'm getting my indie fix -9:31 PM Aug 14th, 2012
SendaEvenson French readers : "Et si j'oubliais" A hilarious satire of the modern world http://t.co/uUW0MEQr vidéo http://t.co/CN0qaR5S #indiechat -9:31 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch Post a project with what you need done & budget RT @laurapauling @BiblioCrunch What do we do first after we create an account? #indiechat -9:31 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @BiblioCrunch I don't support using them because they tend to devalue the industry. But if you have too... #indiechat -9:31 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @Froze8 yes. Each of the 3 will get their own trailer for book 2. #indiechat -9:32 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @BiblioCrunch After you post project/budget do you wait for professionals to get in touch with you? #indiechat -9:32 PM Aug 14th, 2012
RyanCaseyBooks @BiblioCrunch used 99D for my upcoming novel, What We Saw - looks gorgeous. http://t.co/ULLLFafI for anyone interested in results #indiechat -9:32 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch I also find it helpful to create a checklist for authors for things to consider when publishing http://t.co/4FXJuEK9 #indiechat -9:33 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch RT @laurapauling: @BiblioCrunch After you post project/budget do you wait for professionals to get in touch with you? #indiechat -9:33 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @RyanCaseyBooks Love the cover. Looks good! Congrats on the new release this fall! #indiechat -9:34 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch Yup! RT @laurapauling @BiblioCrunch After you post project/budget do you wait for professionals to get in touch with you? #indiechat -9:34 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @BiblioCrunch So no one might be in touch? Or we might get several interested parties? #indiechat -9:34 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @laurapauling After you post your project you'll see the proposals come in within a few hours #indiechat and you can check out portfolios -9:34 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn RT @BiblioCrunch: a checklist for authors for things to consider when publishing http://t.co/xVtAjEmp #indiechat -9:35 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @RyanCaseyBooks 99D is great for everyone, except the designers that is. #indiechat -9:35 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @RyanCaseyBooks because basically you are asking a lot of people to work for free on spec. #indiechat -9:35 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Froze8 @RyanCaseyBooks Two things you need to put the most money towards the cover and the editing. #indiechat -9:35 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @laurapauling We have over 500 professionals on there so someone will always be in touch #indiechat -9:35 PM Aug 14th, 2012
RyanCaseyBooks @KatGirl_Studio Very interesting debate, yeah. I totally hear you. Everyone but the winning designer, anyway. #indiechat -9:35 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @laurapauling if we see that something isn't getting bids it's probably miscategorized and we work with the author to fix it #indiechat -9:36 PM Aug 14th, 2012
RyanCaseyBooks @KatGirl_Studio Hopefully some day soon we'll see more rewards for the runners up. #indiechat -9:36 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @RyanCaseyBooks most designers I know won't even go near such companies. #indiechat -9:37 PM Aug 14th, 2012
JessieHarrell YES! RT @Froze8: Two things you need to put the most money towards the cover and the editing. #indiechat -9:37 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling RT @BiblioCrunch: if we see that something isn't getting bids it's probably miscategorized and we work with the author to fix it #indiechat -9:37 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch Also, you can write reviews for the freelancers you have worked with to see how they fared #indiechat -9:37 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch RT @JessieHarrell: YES! RT @Froze8: Two things you need to put the most money towards the cover and the editing. #indiechat -9:38 PM Aug 14th, 2012
LM_Preston RT @JessieHarrell: YES! RT @Froze8: Two things you need to put the most money towards the cover and the editing. #indiechat -9:38 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @RyanCaseyBooks as a concept crowd sourced designing will never be good for designers. #indiechat -9:38 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch What about marketing? RT @Froze8: Two things you need to put the most money towards the cover and the editing. #indiechat -9:38 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Froze8 @KatGirl_Studio That's gonna be sexy <3 -9:39="-9:39" 14th="14th" 2012="2012" aug="aug" blog="blog" can="can" feature="feature" i="i" indiechat="indiechat" it="it" maybe="maybe" my="my" on="on" p="p" pm="pm">
KatGirl_Studio @RyanCaseyBooks but some companies like BiblioCrunch take a different approach which is more fair to the designers. #indiechat -9:39 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn The best marketing is a well-edited book with a great cover. @BiblioCrunch: What about marketing? RT @Froze8: #indiechat -9:39 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @BiblioCrunch Is there a way we vet the parties who contact us? #indiechat Like a sample crit or something? -9:39 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch I've self-pubbed and I had no idea that you had to proof a digital book in all readers #indiechat -9:40 PM Aug 14th, 2012
JessieHarrell @BiblioCrunch IMHO, marketing should be a distant third in your expense budget. bloggers will help and read e-copies. #indiechat -9:40 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch RT @laurapauling @BiblioCrunch Is there a way we vet the parties who contact us? #indiechat Like a sample crit or something? -9:40 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling I have some random question marks at the end of 2 my of chapters in the epub that I absolutely can't get rid of. #indiechat -9:40 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @RyanCaseyBooks 99D perpetuates the idea that spec work is ok and it really isn't. It's no different than slave labor. #indiechat -9:41 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @laurapauling that is actually a good idea. #indiechat -9:41 PM Aug 14th, 2012
RyanCaseyBooks @KatGirl_Studio I will have to investigate BiblioCrunch. We're so blessed to live in an age of choice and options. #indiechat -9:41 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @laurapauling like the symbols? #indiechat -9:41 PM Aug 14th, 2012
srjohannes Ok so i am finally online! our power went out! #indiechat -9:41 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn @KatGirl_Studio Except all authors work on spec, no? :) I'm really just yanking your chain. I agree about spec work, in general. #indiechat -9:42 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch Things you need to think about when forming your team. Talk and FaceTime or Skype with your #editor to make sure you connect #indiechat -9:42 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @KatGirl_Studio ????? All at the end of a chapter. #indiechat -9:42 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @RyanCaseyBooks I agree. #indiechat -9:42 PM Aug 14th, 2012
JessieHarrell @srjohannes Hi Shelli! I just arrived myself. #indiechat -9:42 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @KatGirl_Studio But there is nothing there for the marks to be replacing. It's weird. #indiechat -9:42 PM Aug 14th, 2012
srjohannes NOt that I know as much as miral! #indiechat but can try to contribute -9:42 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch #CoverDesign #eBookFormatting #Conversion #Proofing #Marketing #Distribution Things to thing about #indiechat -9:43 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @srjohannes Hey! Glad your power came back on! #indiechat That's why there are several of us! #indiechat -9:43 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn it's not really the same, sorry. #indiechat -9:43 PM Aug 14th, 2012
srjohannes im going to add formatting! RT @Froze8: Two things you need to put the most money towards the cover and the editing. #indiechat -9:43 PM Aug 14th, 2012
srjohannes @laurapauling bad storm. wierd storms here in GA. but my neighbordhood has prob with trees going don #indiechat #indiechat -9:44 PM Aug 14th, 2012
tammyhelfrich #indiechat just saw this. Do you talk about self publishing? -9:44 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch EEP! RT @srjohannes Ok so i am finally online! our power went out! #indiechat -9:44 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio Sorry if I offended anyone but this is an important subject for me as a member of the No Spec movement. #indiechat -9:44 PM Aug 14th, 2012
JessieHarrell @srjohannes formatting is important, but some authors *cough, cough* can do this themselves (mostly) #indiechat -9:44 PM Aug 14th, 2012
RyanCaseyBooks @KatGirl_Studio I see your point, however I would contest that nobody is forced to design for 99D. 100% choice. #indiechat -9:44 PM Aug 14th, 2012
srjohannes @tammyhelfrich yes we talk all things self pub and indie pub #indiechat -9:45 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @laurapauling how are you creating the file? I might be able to help you. #indiechat -9:45 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch YES! :) RT @tammyhelfrich #indiechat just saw this. Do you talk about self publishing? -9:45 PM Aug 14th, 2012
srjohannes @JessieHarrell not i! cant stand it! #indiechat -9:45 PM Aug 14th, 2012
JessieHarrell @tammyhelfrich yes. self publishing and publishing with small (Indie) presses. #indiechat -9:45 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn @tammyhelfrich Welcome! Yes, we talk all things indie. #indiechat -9:45 PM Aug 14th, 2012
RyanCaseyBooks @KatGirl_Studio You're spot on though. Its a fascinating debate that perhaps deserves a whole topic to itself some time. #indiechat -9:46 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn no that's work-for-hire and a whole different problem in the industry. #indiechat -9:46 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @KatGirl_Studio The epub was originally created with Indesign. But I can't see anything wonky in the code using Sigil. #indiechat -9:46 PM Aug 14th, 2012
JessieHarrell @srjohannes I know - that's why I said it. ;) I actually still can't do .mobi but think I have the rest down. #indiechat -9:46 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn with WFH at least the artist is being paid hourly or by project. #indiechat -9:46 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch Enhanced features are getting more and popular in ebooks and #github has some nice examples you can download #Indiechat -9:46 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch RT @JessieHarrell: @srjohannes I know - that's why I said it. ;) I actually still can't do .mobi but think I have the rest down. #indiechat -9:47 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn but with spec you are working for free unless you win and then you get paid a small amount. #indiechat -9:47 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn @KatGirl_Studio So, getting paid (work for hire) is good, right? Because that's most of what indie authors do, right? #indiechat -9:48 PM Aug 14th, 2012
JessieHarrell @laurapauling you've just convinced me I shouldn't be doing my own formatting since I didn't understand most of what you said. #indiechat -9:48 PM Aug 14th, 2012
LM_Preston @KatGirl_Studio what's no spec #indiechat -9:48 PM Aug 14th, 2012
JessieHarrell RT @BiblioCrunch: Enhanced features are getting more and popular in ebooks and #github has some nice examples you can download #indiechat -9:48 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @JessieHarrell I think after like 5 more books, I'll have the formatting understood. #indiechat -9:48 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn imagine working retail and only getting paid if you sell the most. That's what crowd sourced design is. #indiechat -9:48 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch A lot of authors forget about clearing the images they use for their #cover #indiechat -9:48 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @JessieHarrell The most frustrating thing was realizing that Amazon strips most of the formatting. So keep it simple. #indiechat -9:49 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn Which sounds like trad-pub to me. :) @KatGirl_Studio: but with spec,working for free unless you win&then get paid a small amount #indiechat -9:49 PM Aug 14th, 2012
RyanCaseyBooks @KatGirl_Studio Likewise, no offence taken whatsoever. More interested in the topic than anything. :) #indiechat -9:49 PM Aug 14th, 2012
srjohannes if it wasnt for miral I never would have made the marketing book! she saved me! RT @JessieHarrell: @laurapauling #indiechat -9:49 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @JessieHarrell Unless you create fonts as images for chapter titles, formatting gets stripped. #indiechat -9:49 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @laurapauling What is sigil? And is this in ePub, mobi or both files? #indiechat -9:49 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @srjohannes How so? How did you use @BiblioCrunch ? #indiechat -9:49 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch There's lack of standardization MT @laurapauling @JessieHarrell after like 5 more books, I'll have the formatting understood. #indiechat -9:50 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @KatGirl_Studio Sigil is free software that shows the epub coding behind the manuscript. #indiechat -9:50 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch RT @srjohannes: if it wasnt for miral I never would have made the marketing book! she saved me! RT @JessieHarrell: @laurapauling #indiechat -9:50 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn no WFH is also terrible but it's the lesser of 2 evils. #indiechat -9:50 PM Aug 14th, 2012
srjohannes @laurapauling well I used her b/c I knew her ut didnt not go through biblio b/c we already had a connection #indiechat -9:50 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @srjohannes @JessieHarrell @laurapauling hehe! ;) It was a great, fun book to read! #indiechat -9:50 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @srjohannes So she helped you connect with professionals needed? #indiechat -9:51 PM Aug 14th, 2012
JessieHarrell @laurapauling holy crap - @srjohannes, I'm eating my words now. make fonts into images?? what??? #indiechat -9:51 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Battista_j RT @BiblioCrunch: Enhanced features are getting more and popular in ebooks and #github has some nice examples you can download #Indiechat -9:51 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn for example working for Disney, Pixar or Nick would be WFH. You create things but you don't own them. #indiechat -9:51 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch There is also #Jutoh and #Pages for conversion. But the problem is Amazon is not likely to go #Epub #indiechat -9:51 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn @KatGirl_Studio When I hire my cover artist to make a cover, that's WFH, right? Or am I confused? #probably #indiechat -9:51 PM Aug 14th, 2012
JessieHarrell @BiblioCrunch by clearing the images, do you mean purchasing the stock photo rights? #indiechat -9:52 PM Aug 14th, 2012
srjohannes @laurapauling @bibliocrunch connects you with people you need (they vet them) miral helped me in a bind. #indiechat -9:52 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn it is kinda but they are different because the story is yours. #indiechat -9:52 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch You always have to make sure to test in all the several Kindles. Basic things like bullet points can totally mess w/spacing #indiechat. -9:52 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @srjohannes I have no problem making the mobi file but with the first book I spent time on formatting that won't appear on mobi. #indiechat -9:52 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn @KatGirl_Studio When I work for GE and invent new aircraft engines, they own the patent not me. That's what being salaried is. #indiechat -9:52 PM Aug 14th, 2012
JessieHarrell @BiblioCrunch can you give us some examples of "enhanced features" in ebooks? #indiechat -9:52 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @srjohannes Which online service do you use? #indiechat -9:53 PM Aug 14th, 2012
RyanCaseyBooks For the record, I rewarded my runners-up and will forever sing the praises of my winning designer publicly. :) @KatGirl_Studio #indiechat -9:53 PM Aug 14th, 2012
srjohannes um YES! *slams head on desk* RT @BiblioCrunch: You always have to make sure to test. bullet points can totally mess w/spacing #indiechat. -9:53 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn imagine if a cover artist had you write a book to match their cover and only paid you if you were picked. #indiechat -9:53 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @srjohannes @laurapauling we bartered! ;) #indiechat which gave me the idea of the #BarterBoard #indiechat -9:53 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch RT @JessieHarrell: @BiblioCrunch can you give us some examples of "enhanced features" in ebooks? #indiechat -9:53 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @laurapauling interesting, I've never heard of it. I just use the Nook and Kindle emulators. #indiechat -9:53 PM Aug 14th, 2012
susankayequinn @KatGirl_Studio Yeah, I get how crowd-sourcing stinks. Still not so sure about WFH. #indiechat -9:54 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @KatGirl_Studio Do you mean like Adobe dig. Editions for reading epub? #indiechat -9:54 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch Examples of enhanced features #slideshows #videos #audio #moving text #indiechat -9:54 PM Aug 14th, 2012
doreenb8 #indiechat hello -9:54 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn that depends. Do you ask for all rights? And then not credit them as the designer? #indiechat -9:55 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @JessieHarrell If you have a cookbook it would be really cool to embed the recipe creation in the book itself #indiechat -9:55 PM Aug 14th, 2012
JessieHarrell @KatGirl_Studio there r authors who do write partial novels based on concept and only get to write the rest (& paid) if they win #indiechat -9:55 PM Aug 14th, 2012
JessieHarrell RT @BiblioCrunch: Examples of enhanced features #slideshows #videos #audio #moving text #indiechat -9:55 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn yes that work you do for GE is WFH. But you are employed by them and get those benefits. #indiechat -9:55 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch I use a firefox plugin to do my initial proof of epubs #indiechat so much easier! -9:56 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling I think I'll never write a book with bullets. #indiechat Not the kinds for listing items anyway. #indiechat -9:56 PM Aug 14th, 2012
JessieHarrell @BiblioCrunch what do you mean by "embed the recipe creation" - sorry, you're talking to a newbie here #indiechat -9:56 PM Aug 14th, 2012
srjohannes @BiblioCrunch what does copyediting and formatting and cover designing range on the site. is it expensive? #indiechat -9:56 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch RT @srjohannes: @laurapauling @bibliocrunch connects you with people you need (they vet them) miral helped me in a bind. #indiechat -9:56 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn so imagine if you just got paid a sum with no benefits of any kind. That's the bad side of WFH. #indiechat -9:56 PM Aug 14th, 2012
srjohannes @laurapauling bullets are a pain ;) #indiechat -9:56 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch Yup and making sure medium RT @JessieHarrell @BiblioCrunch by clearing images, do you mean purchasing the stock photo rights? #indiechat -9:56 PM Aug 14th, 2012
RyanCaseyBooks Regd crowd-sourcing, I think it's important to reward all designers and be sure to credit the winning designer. #indiechat -9:56 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn Sounds criminal right? but it's something freelance designers are faced with everyday. #indiechat -9:57 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @RyanCaseyBooks yes but you are awesome and not the norm. #indiechat -9:57 PM Aug 14th, 2012
JessieHarrell @RyanCaseyBooks when you say "reward," are you talking financially? #indiechat -9:57 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @JessieHarrell ex. your cookbook tells u 'how' to make lamb chops. But you could also pop in a video that the reader could watch #indiechat -9:57 PM Aug 14th, 2012
LM_Preston #indiechat I'm learning much tonight -9:58 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @RyanCaseyBooks I'm not saying you're wrong or a bad person. #indiechat -9:58 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @BiblioCrunch But what can handle that? Just iPads and Fires, right? #indiechat -9:58 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @JessieHarrell or if you are buying a yoga book or dance book - you could pop in videos there that actually show you #indiechat -9:58 PM Aug 14th, 2012
srjohannes whoa! RT @BiblioCrunch: @JessieHarrell cookbook tells u 'how' to make lamb chops. But you also pop in a video #indiechat -9:58 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch RT @srjohannes: @BiblioCrunch what does copyediting and formatting and cover designing range on the site. is it expensive? #indiechat -9:58 PM Aug 14th, 2012
Froze8 @BiblioCrunch Marketing varies Some like @srjohannes have marketing skills so do not need to pay as much as an author who doesn't #indiechat -9:58 PM Aug 14th, 2012
srjohannes @srjohannes so you and others on biblio do that? #indiechat -9:58 PM Aug 14th, 2012
JessieHarrell @BiblioCrunch now that's fascinating! #indiechat -9:58 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @RyanCaseyBooks Just wanted to make people aware is all. #indiechat -9:58 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch Ur budget RT @srjohannes @BiblioCrunch what does copyediting and formatting and cover designing range on the site. is it $$$? #indiechat -9:59 PM Aug 14th, 2012
SPNHeather Hi everyone!! #indiechat -9:59 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @JessieHarrell yes contest writing which I also do support. #indiechat -9:59 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @srjohannes It's based on your budget. We have really good grad students who can edit for less than a $100 or format to high end #indiechat -9:59 PM Aug 14th, 2012
RyanCaseyBooks @KatGirl_Studio I'm glad you are doing. It's very important that you do! #indiechat -9:59 PM Aug 14th, 2012
srjohannes @BiblioCrunch u mean you put in your budget on the site and people try to match it? #indiechat -9:59 PM Aug 14th, 2012
srjohannes @BiblioCrunch nice #indiechat -9:59 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling @BiblioCrunch So we could possibly get high quality work from pros just starting out? #indiechat -10:00 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch Yup! And iPhones and Droids RT @laurapauling @BiblioCrunch But what can handle that? Just iPads and Fires, right? #indiechat -10:00 PM Aug 14th, 2012
JessieHarrell @SPNHeather hello! #indiechat -10:00 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @laurapauling People always forget that if you have a #Droid or #iphone you can download all these awesome interactive books #indiechat -10:00 PM Aug 14th, 2012
RyanCaseyBooks @JessieHarrell I think so yeah, within reason obviously. But then the flipside is costs escalate anyway so not really 'cheaper' #indiechat -10:01 PM Aug 14th, 2012
SPNHeather I'm stalking tonight so I can learn a bit more... I now have a WIP #indiechat -10:01 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @JessieHarrell I don't support any contest that asks me to create new art for free that they will own even if I don't win. #indiechat -10:01 PM Aug 14th, 2012
JessieHarrell @BiblioCrunch these embedded features don't sound too far off though. are they being used in fiction much yet? #indiechat -10:01 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch Yep! NYU and Columbia grad students MT @laurapauling @BiblioCrunch We could get high quality work from pros just starting out? #indiechat -10:01 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch RT @JessieHarrell: @BiblioCrunch these embedded features don't sound too far off though. are they being used in fiction much yet? #indiechat -10:01 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch Yep! RT @srjohannes @BiblioCrunch u mean you put in your budget on the site and people try to match it? #indiechat -10:02 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn yes, you are correct. When I said WFH was evil I meant non salary jobs BTW. #indiechat -10:02 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch p.s I'm in NYC and there are so many great pros here just looking for experience #indiechat -10:02 PM Aug 14th, 2012
AuthorMadison Is there a list of dates and times that #indiechat s are?? #indiechat -10:02 PM Aug 14th, 2012
RyanCaseyBooks Great chat tonight everyone, as always. Some wonderful debates and the like. I have to shoot. Have a great evening! #indiechat -10:03 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @JessieHarrell Not yet. Can totally see it with something like author special interview at the end or something #indiechat -10:03 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn yes that is also ok. #indiechat -10:03 PM Aug 14th, 2012
BiblioCrunch @JessieHarrell Or a sneak peak of a movie trailer if the book has been turned into a movie like @LornaSuzuki #indiechat -10:04 PM Aug 14th, 2012
KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn really it's a whole squiggly fish. We are taught what to look for and what to avoid. #indiechat -10:04 PM Aug 14th, 2012
laurapauling Okay, great chat tonight, guys! I'm off to create the transcripts! #indiechat -10:04 PM Aug 14th, 2012
