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Senin, 12 Agustus 2013

Francis Ford Coppola Does It

Hey, writer-friends! *waves enthusiastically* It's my day to steer this bloggy ship, and I confess... I've been in The Cave.

I'm in the thick of revisions and edits, and my inspiration is all directed toward Anna + Julian in Book #3 of the Dragonfly series, Watercolor (link).

But I want to give you something you can use! So I went back and scoured my ole writer's blog for something readers seemed to like. That's Write, I'm recycling (wink). See what you think~

OK, I did it again. I got another Fresh Air podcast inspiration.

But this time I was listening to Francis Ford Coppola talking about his film career and being a writer. I mean, sure. It's screenwriting. But he had the greatest advice.

FFC says...
I was kind of already doing it (bet some of you were, too), so in truth, it was the greatest affirmation.

He said, "When you're writing, just keep writing."

OK, that's not exactly what he said.

The gist of what he said was that young writers don't trust themselves. They go back and read those first five pages right after they've written them, and lots of times, they tear them up.

Along with some potentially good ideas or inspiration.

(Historical Note: FFC's old, children. Back in the day, writers used to write stuff on paper. Which they cold tear. His point is sort of the equivalent of deleting it all today.)

Back to Frank! He said to write, write, write. (Just keep swimming.) Then put it away for a day or so (Stephen King says a month, doesn't he?), and then go back and read it.

Give yourself a chance to forget it, and then read it with fresh eyes. It's something I (used to) tell my editing clients all the time. Take a break. Let it rest a few days to a week. You'll be amazed how different it'll look.

Gene Hackman listens to FFC...
He also admitted that he copied all his favorite screenwriters and directors.

He confessed that his movie The Conversation was based on some movie he loved and wanted to copy.

And then he said the most important point: But that's impossible!

Which I interpreted this way: It's okay to emulate, to strive to write something like that book you love so much.

(The one that made you almost give up on writing because you'd never in a million years be able to ever write anything that good. Ever.)

I'm not talking about plagerism, as I've said before. I'm talking about being inspired. Being challenged. Being ticked off (or depressed) by other writers.

And then getting in there and trying to beat them, depending on your personality.

I'm a bit competitive, so after I get over the wallowing and the "Oh, I'll never write as good as Jessica Bell!" I get up, dust myself off, and then get ready to kick her tushie. (*wink*)

Yes?

OK, so here's the link to that podcast (link). And now hit it! I want to see some drills. Jumping jacks. Drop and give me 20K (words, that is)!

Have a great week, reader- and writer-friends! I'm planning to get some of my own revisions done this week. More soon~ <3

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Leigh Talbert Moore is a wife and mom by day, a writer by day, a reader by day, a former freelance editor, a former journalist, a caffeine addict, a chocoholic, a beach bum, a lover of any great love story, and occasionally she sleeps.

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THE TRUTH ABOUT FAKING (link) is her debut young adult romance.

-THE TRUTH ABOUT LETTING GO (link) is her newest book available now!
-ROUGE (link) is her mature-YA/new adult romantic suspense novel.
-DRAGONFLY (link), and UNDERTOW (link) Books 1-2 in her new adult, contemporary romance series are out now!

Leigh loves hearing from readers; stop by and say hello:
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Selasa, 16 Oktober 2012

10/16/12 How to grow in the craft of writing.



DiamondLB RT @IndelibleWriter: Join us for #indiechat in 3 minutes! Self improvement tips for the self published! -8:59 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling Hi everyone! #indiechat -8:59 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Stacey_WB @LM_Preston By any means necessary! #indiechat -9:00 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Lisa_Nowak Hi everyone! #indiechat -9:00 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling We've had so many chats about marketing and 5 year plans. But what about improving our craft? #indiechat -9:00 PM Oct 16th, 2012



crankyashley Hi #indiechat -9:00 PM Oct 16th, 2012



DiamondLB “@laurapauling: Hi everyone! #indiechat”



laurapauling @DiamondLB Hey there! I dm'd you back. :) #indiechat -9:01 PM Oct 16th, 2012



DiamondLB RT @laurapauling: We've had so many chats about marketing and 5 year plans. But what about improving our craft? #indiechat -9:01 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @crankyashley Hi there! Welcome #indiechat -9:01 PM Oct 16th, 2012



crankyashley @laurapauling Thanks :) #indiechat -9:01 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Stacey_WB Hi guys! #indiechat -9:02 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling Does everyone usually see an improvement in their writing from year to year? #indiechat -9:02 PM Oct 16th, 2012



chandahahn Hello everybody! #indiechat -9:02 PM Oct 16th, 2012



DiamondLB @laurapauling oh yay! *scoots to reply* #indiechat -9:02 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @chandahahn Hi Chanda! #indiechat -9:02 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston Yep, but still have ticks @laurapauling: Does everyone usually see an improvement in their writing from year to year? #indiechat” -9:03 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Stacey_WB @laurapauling I think if you keep at it, you can't help but get better. #indiechat -9:03 PM Oct 16th, 2012



DiamondLB “@laurapauling: Does everyone usually see an improvement in their writing from year to year? #indiechat” <



KatGirl_Studio @laurapauling not sure. I haven't been doing this that long to make a comparison. #indiechat -9:03 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn Hello indiechatters! #indiechat -9:03 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling I love looking back to the last year and knowing how I've improved. #indiechat -9:03 PM Oct 16th, 2012



DiamondLB @susankayequinn hullo! #indiechat -9:03 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Stacey_WB @laurapauling I finally learned to stop writing "nodding her head." Uh, what else would she be nodding? lol #indiechat -9:04 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @KatGirl_Studio How long have you been writing? #indiechat -9:04 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston Lol! Yep “@Stacey_WB: @LM_Preston By any means necessary! #indiechat” -9:04 PM Oct 16th, 2012



KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn Hi Susan! =^.^= #indiechat -9:04 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @Stacey_WB ha ha. I still have to delete those kinds of things from my first draft. #indiechat -9:04 PM Oct 16th, 2012



KatGirl_Studio @laurapauling do you mean idly or seriously? #indiechat -9:05 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @KatGirl_Studio srsly. #indiechat -9:05 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn @Stacey_WB LOL! Yes, redundant redundancies. I excel at those. #indiechat -9:05 PM Oct 16th, 2012



crankyashley @KatGirl_Studio @LM_Preston *waves* #indiechat -9:05 PM Oct 16th, 2012



KatGirl_Studio @laurapauling a year or 2 maybe. #indiechat -9:06 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @KatGirl_Studio Cool. #indiechat -9:06 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Stacey_WB @susankayequinn Me too! Now I have betas that are specifically asked to only look for those. #indiechat -9:06 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston #indiechat I think my writing has greatly improved as well as I've taken some risk with other genres -9:06 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Froze8 Hey #Indiechat anything new happen? :) -9:06 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @LM_Preston I love experimenting with other genres! Really helps widen my toolbox so to say. #indiechat -9:06 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn @LM_Preston I think taking risks is a HUGE part of improvement. #indiechat -9:06 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling One thing that really helped was to have someone out of my genre beta my work. Different perspective. #indiechat -9:07 PM Oct 16th, 2012



crankyashley @laurapauling @LM_Preston I decided to delve into a sci-fi story. I'm hoping that'll help me out, too. #indiechat -9:07 PM Oct 16th, 2012



BiblioCrunch Hey #indiechat Did you see our interview and giveaway with @srjohannes ? http://t.co/BAyaVdFT -9:07 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling Being scared of a story is a sure sign to try it out. #indiechat -9:07 PM Oct 16th, 2012



KatGirl_Studio @laurapauling I came from working in illustration/comics so writing book books is new for me. #indiechat -9:07 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn Steps to improve can depend on where you are in the journey: starting out, serious-about-publishing,or multiple-novels-and/or-pub #indiechat -9:08 PM Oct 16th, 2012



DiamondLB RT @laurapauling: Being scared of a story is a sure sign to try it out. #indiechat -9:08 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling How many of you read books on the craft of wr iting? #indiechat -9:08 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston RT @laurapauling: @LM_Preston I love experimenting with other genres! Really helps widen my toolbox so to say. #indiechat -9:08 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling At the beginning, craft books can make a huge difference. #indiechat -9:08 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn @KatGirl_Studio Ah, but you already have a great sense of story/dialogue from comics I imagine #indiechat -9:08 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Stacey_WB I've also learned that each book = different process. Becoming comfy with that makes a big difference. #indiechat -9:08 PM Oct 16th, 2012



KatGirl_Studio @laurapauling Oh I read a ton. I love informational & how to books. #indiechat -9:09 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling What are some of your favorite craft books? #indiechat -9:09 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn I think learning tips from screenwriters can really help novel writers. #indiechat -9:09 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston Are you doing Nanowrimo @crankyashley: @laurapauling delving into a sci-fi story. I'm hoping that'll help me out, too. #indiechat -9:09 PM Oct 16th, 2012



KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn yes but its also very different. #indiechat -9:09 PM Oct 16th, 2012



IndelibleWriter #indiechat happening now! Join us! We're talking improving the craft of writing! -9:09 PM Oct 16th, 2012



chandahahn Stephen Kings 'On Writing' #Indiechat -9:09 PM Oct 16th, 2012



crankyashley @LM_Preston You haven't seen me blabbering on about it? lol @poor_dick and I both. 2nd year. @laurapauling #indiechat -9:10 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling I loved the Donald Maass books. #indiechat -9:10 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling Though I can get overwhelmed with all the advice. #indiechat -9:10 PM Oct 16th, 2012



crankyashley @LM_Preston I'm sticking to fantasy and trying a Beauty & the Beast rewrite, though @laurapauling #indiechat -9:10 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston #indiechat I'm trying to do Nanowrimo every year to improve my writing time. Anyone else? -9:10 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling And, of course, Save the Cat by Blake Snyder. #indiechat -9:10 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Stacey_WB @laurapauling I don't really read craft books per se. I learn about craft from reading novels in the genre that I'm writing. #indiechat -9:10 PM Oct 16th, 2012



KatGirl_Studio @laurapauling If I was home I'd list a bunch off my shelf. #indiechat -9:10 PM Oct 16th, 2012



crankyashley RT @IndelibleWriter: #indiechat happening now! Join us! We're talking improving the craft of writing! -9:10 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn Save the Cat! by Blake Snyder #indiechat -9:10 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Lisa_Nowak It's hard to chat and do bookkeeping at the same time. Just sayin'. #indiechat -9:10 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling Some writers don't read craft books and others devour them. That's okay. #indiechat -9:11 PM Oct 16th, 2012



crankyashley @LM_Preston What's your #NaNoWriMo page? I bet you can guess my name ;-) #indiechat -9:11 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn I try not to pick up a craft book unless I have a manuscript to apply it to. #indiechat -9:11 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Lisa_Nowak @laurapauling me too. Sometimes it's just too much and too contradictory. #indiechat -9:11 PM Oct 16th, 2012



KatGirl_Studio @laurapauling I really liked all the Writers Digest Books I have. Very helpful. #indiechat -9:11 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling I don't read them as much as I used to. #indiechat -9:11 PM Oct 16th, 2012



BiblioCrunch And what about blogs that talk about the craft? #indiechat -9:12 PM Oct 16th, 2012



VictoriaSmith76 @LM_Preston I did it last year for the first time. Really does help with writing. :) #indiechat -9:12 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling But STORY by Robert McKee during my first year was a Godsend. #indiechat A little technical but opened my eyes. -9:12 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn What's your NEWEST effort to improve craft? Mine: looking for places to use literary devices #indiechat -9:12 PM Oct 16th, 2012



crankyashley @VictoriaSmith76 I think it's great, especially for people who tend to over think what they write. @LM_Preston #indiechat -9:12 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Lisa_Nowak @laurapauling I've found a few good ones like James N. Frey's, but a lot just frustrate me. #indiechat -9:13 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn YES@laurapauling: But STORY by Robert McKee during my first year was a Godsend. #indiechat A little technical but opened my eyes. #indiechat -9:13 PM Oct 16th, 2012



KatGirl_Studio @laurapauling I also read a lot of articles across the internet. #indiechat -9:13 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn @BiblioCrunch Sometimes blogs about craft can be good; sometimes not so much. #selective #indiechat -9:13 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston I haven't had time to set up yet I think it is. @crankyashley: What's your #NaNoWriMo page? I bet you can guess my name ;-) #indiechat -9:13 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling Lately I've reading a lot more since having an ereader. and that's really helped my writing. #indiechat -9:13 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @Lisa_Nowak Why do they frustrate you? #indiechat -9:13 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling I finally get the advice to read, read, read. #indiechat -9:14 PM Oct 16th, 2012



DougSolter Hi everyone! Story by Robert McKee answered so many writing questions in my screenwriting days. #indiechat -9:14 PM Oct 16th, 2012



DiamondLB @laurapauling I don't read them...I wonder if it's held me back... #indiechat -9:14 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Lisa_Nowak Still haven't gotten through that one, but I'd like to. @laurapauling: But STORY by Robert McKee... #indiechat -9:14 PM Oct 16th, 2012



srjohannes Hi every one! sorry Im late #indiechat -9:14 PM Oct 16th, 2012



VictoriaSmith76 @crankyashley true. I found it worked pretty well with my writing style. I don't self edit so it wasn't too bad :) @lm_preston #indiechat -9:14 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @DiamondLB A lot of them are repetitive. And you can learn the same thing through reading just a diff. process. #indiechat -9:14 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn @DougSolter I LOVE that book. #Story #indiechat -9:14 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston #indiechat LA Banks told us she could finish a novel in 2 to 3 wks and edit it 1 time before it hits the editors desk -9:15 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling I started breaking down story structure in published novels. That was amazing. #indiechat -9:15 PM Oct 16th, 2012



chandahahn When I'm in the middle of writing a book. I tend to not read for fun until my projects done. #indiechat -9:15 PM Oct 16th, 2012



crankyashley @VictoriaSmith76 My SO has that problem. He only ended up w/about 5K b/c he kept rewriting @LM_Preston #indiechat -9:15 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @LM_Preston Srsly? 2-3 weeks? That's amazing. #indiechat -9:15 PM Oct 16th, 2012



DougSolter I became a better writer after that book. Just sayin. @susankayequinn #indiechat -9:15 PM Oct 16th, 2012



crankyashley @LM_Preston You shouldn't need to this year. They revamped the site. All I had to do was log in and my old stuff was there #indiechat -9:15 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn @chandahahn I do that too - during first drafts at least. #savethemforrewards #indiechat -9:16 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston I want to grow into that @laurapauling: Srsly? 2-3 weeks? That's amazing. #indiechat” -9:16 PM Oct 16th, 2012



VictoriaSmith76 @chandahahn I do this to! Helps me stay constant with my style :) #indiechat -9:16 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling I usually need a break so I do continue to read. And it still helps, doesn't hurt. #indiechat -9:16 PM Oct 16th, 2012



KatGirl_Studio @LM_Preston wow and I thought my 1-2 months was fast. #indiechat -9:16 PM Oct 16th, 2012



srjohannes I always try and make time to improve my craft through conferences, online courses, and reading #indiechat -9:16 PM Oct 16th, 2012



BiblioCrunch @susankayequinn I'm still looking for more thoughts on what we should be putting on our new blog :) #indiechat suggestions please! -9:16 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Addison_Moore Hello all~! I'll be in and out. #indiechat -9:17 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Juliana_Haygert Hi! #indiechat -9:17 PM Oct 16th, 2012



chandahahn I've got a whole stack I've collected to reward myself with as soon as I'm done with my current one. #indiechat -9:17 PM Oct 16th, 2012



VictoriaSmith76 @crankyashley yeah the key is to write first and edit later. @lm_preston #indiechat -9:17 PM Oct 16th, 2012



KatGirl_Studio @srjohannes me too. a variety of learning media. #indiechat -9:17 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling Really studying a certain aspect like pacing or dialogue or bodylanguage in books I like has helped the most. #indiechat -9:17 PM Oct 16th, 2012



HeatherSunseri I'm late. I'm late. I'm late. #indiechat. I was working on a back cover copy. But I'm here now. -9:17 PM Oct 16th, 2012



srjohannes @laurapauling I heard STORY was awesome!! #indiechat -9:17 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston She was a full time author with 4 releases a yr contract @KatGirl_Studio: wow and I thought my 1-2 months was fast. #indiechat” -9:17 PM Oct 16th, 2012



DiamondLB RT @laurapauling: I started breaking down story structure in published novels. That was amazing. #indiechat -9:18 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn @LM_Preston I think announcing writing times is like those Demotivational Posters. #notsomuchhelping #indiechat -9:18 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Stacey_WB Hello! @Addison_Moore @Juliana_Haygert #indiechat -9:18 PM Oct 16th, 2012



KatGirl_Studio @laurapauling I can't help but do that too. #indiechat -9:18 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling What's been the aspect of craft that's been the hardest for everyone to grasp or get right? #indiechat -9:18 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn @Addison_Moore Hey girl! #indiechat -9:18 PM Oct 16th, 2012



srjohannes @BiblioCrunch I read alot of blogs that talk craft. What I like to do is search 4 topics. 2day I was reading new posts on pacing #indiechat -9:18 PM Oct 16th, 2012



BiblioCrunch @DougSolter Screenwriting? That sounds like fun! #indiechat -9:18 PM Oct 16th, 2012



KatGirl_Studio @LM_Preston I wrote DITM in 2 months. book 2 has taken longer because I've been too busy to work on it. #indiechat -9:19 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling The Writer's Knowledge Base is a terrific resource with tons catalogued blog posts. #indiechat -9:19 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Stacey_WB @VictoriaSmith76 I struggle so much with this. Totally why I fail at NaNoWriMo #indiechat -9:19 PM Oct 16th, 2012



DiamondLB RT @laurapauling: Really studying a certain aspect like pacing or dialogue or bodylanguage in books I like has helped the most. #indiechat -9:19 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Addison_Moore It's funny because with craft books I still prefer hardcopies to e-book versions. I guess I like to flip and bookmark. #indiechat -9:19 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn Some tips on the Indelible's blog: http://t.co/b33FuBGV #indiechat -9:19 PM Oct 16th, 2012



BiblioCrunch @srjohannes It's alright, I was just mentioning your interview http://t.co/BAyaVdFT #indiechat -9:19 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @Addison_Moore And highlight! #indiechat -9:19 PM Oct 16th, 2012



crankyashley @Stacey_WB I'm big on just getting it down. @VictoriaSmith76 #indiechat -9:20 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Lisa_Nowak @Addison_Moore that makes sense to me. #indiechat -9:20 PM Oct 16th, 2012



HeatherSunseri I always am reading craft books. Especially between WIP's. RT @laurapauling: How many of you read books on the craft of wr iting? #indiechat -9:20 PM Oct 16th, 2012



DiamondLB RT @laurapauling: The Writer's Knowledge Base is a terrific resource with tons catalogued blog posts. #indiechat -9:20 PM Oct 16th, 2012



SPNHeather How is everyone? #IndieChat What is the topic tonight? -9:20 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @SPNHeather Ways to improve our writing craft! #indiechat -9:21 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn My newest trick is highlighting on Kindle passages that I like, for handy reference later, when I'm writing. #style #literary #indiechat -9:21 PM Oct 16th, 2012



DougSolter I love writing screenplays. But it took switching to writing novels to earn my first dollar writing. :) @BiblioCrunch #indiechat -9:21 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Lisa_Nowak @laurapauling some are contradictory, some make me question stuff I already have down. #indiechat -9:21 PM Oct 16th, 2012



SPNHeather @laurapauling Oh yay I need lots of help :) #IndieChat -9:21 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn @SPNHeather Self-improvement tips for writers. #HI :) #indiechat -9:21 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Addison_Moore @laurapauling I guess it's pacing and making sure to hit the climax at the right time. #indiechat -9:21 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston RT @KatGirl_Studio: @LM_Preston I wrote DITM in 2 months. book 2 has taken longer because I've been too busy to work on it. #indiechat -9:21 PM Oct 16th, 2012



DougSolter Hi, Lisa! @Lisa_Nowak #indiechat -9:21 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn @DougSolter Nice to be paid, yes? :) #indiechat -9:21 PM Oct 16th, 2012



ReviewerRachel Awesome, how does everyone get their villain ideas? #indiechat @SPNHeather @laurapauling -9:22 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Juliana_Haygert @laurapauling *raises hand* I read a lot of craft books. I think I've read 15 craft books this year already #indiechat -9:22 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Lisa_Nowak @DougSolter Screenplays are a hard sell. Only so many movies are made each year. #indiechat -9:22 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling And we can't forget critiques and betas! #indiechat -9:22 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @Juliana_Haygert Wow! that's a lot! :) #indiechat -9:22 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Lisa_Nowak @DougSolter Hi there. :) Sorry I've been a stranger. Revamping my blog and building a website. #indiechat -9:22 PM Oct 16th, 2012



SPNHeather @ReviewerRachel @laurapauling I can honestly say Me and the hubby just talk it out #IndieChat -9:22 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn To outline or not to outline? (And do you outline before or after writing?) #indiechat -9:22 PM Oct 16th, 2012



DougSolter Yes! RT @susankayequinn: @DougSolter Nice to be paid, yes? :) #indiechat -9:22 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @Juliana_Haygert I do like rereading certain chapters from my fav. craft books. #indiechat -9:22 PM Oct 16th, 2012



DougSolter Exactly! RT @Lisa_Nowak: @DougSolter Screenplays are a hard sell. Only so many movies are made each year. #indiechat -9:22 PM Oct 16th, 2012



KatGirl_Studio I used to read more craft books. Now mostly articles. #indiechat -9:22 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @Addison_Moore @HeatherSunseri When craft books start saying the same thing, I stop buying! #indiechat -9:23 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn @ReviewerRachel I love me a good villain. Usually grows out of the story world; or who the protagonist most needs to overcome #indiechat -9:23 PM Oct 16th, 2012



BiblioCrunch @srjohannes We are still looking for what people want to see on our blog :). #indiechat -9:23 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Juliana_Haygert @HeatherSunseri me too, especially in between WIPs @laurapauling #indiechat -9:23 PM Oct 16th, 2012



KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn no, I write non-linearly. #indiechat -9:23 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @ReviewerRachel I've heard of that one. #indiechat Heard it's really good. -9:23 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston @KatGirl_Studio this year my writing has slowed A LOT since I'd overbooked with volunteering and 3 book release #indiechat -9:23 PM Oct 16th, 2012



HeatherSunseri I'm with @Addison_Moore. Like hold-in-my-hand craft books over ebooks. But Some of James Scott Bell's newest ones are ebook only. #indiechat -9:23 PM Oct 16th, 2012



aehowardwrites RT @susankayequinn: I think learning tips from screenwriters can really help novel writers. #indiechat -9:23 PM Oct 16th, 2012



heatherself @ReviewerRachel Put whatever idiosyncrasies that piss me off the most into the "villain" #indiechat @SPNHeather @laurapauling -9:24 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Addison_Moore @susankayequinn Me, too. I usually end up loving my villains. ;) @ReviewerRachel #indiechat -9:24 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling Why are villains the most fun? #indiechat I love villains. -9:24 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Juliana_Haygert @susankayequinn for me, it depends on the story. Some I pantsed 100%, some I plotted 100%, some was half-half. #indiechat -9:24 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn @KatGirl_Studio I sketch out scenes (is that nonlinear), then put them in order on the Corkboard of Doom. #indiechat -9:24 PM Oct 16th, 2012



DougSolter I always outline. But it doesn't mean you always have to follow it. ;) #indiechat -9:24 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Juliana_Haygert @laurapauling because we can let out our true crazy lol #indiechat -9:25 PM Oct 16th, 2012



BiblioCrunch @DougSolter Interesting, I have a friend who wants to do screenplays, I wonder if she'll take the same change? #indiechat -9:25 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston I now subscribe to a site called Grammergirl and she sends me grammar reminders. #indiechat -9:25 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn @Addison_Moore I'm always afraid I'm making my villains too sympathetic. So I make them even more evil. :) #indiechat -9:25 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Addison_Moore @HeatherSunseri Oh, I did not know that! I wonder why? #indiechat -9:25 PM Oct 16th, 2012



aehowardwrites Hey folks, I'm actually around for once ;-) #indiechat -9:25 PM Oct 16th, 2012



HeatherSunseri @susankayequinn I'm becoming more and more of an outliner. Mainly b/c I hate fixing a non-outlined book. :) #indiechat -9:25 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn @Juliana_Haygert I used to pants 100%, now I'm an avowed plotter. Works for me. *shrugs* #indiechat -9:25 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Lisa_Nowak @susankayequinn I'm big on outlining. Save cutting stuff later. :P #indiechat -9:25 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling I love finding a good 3 dimensional villain. Where being the villain is just a matter of perpective. #indiechat -9:25 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston Oh, I also use tools to help like autocrit . com and a few others I blogged about. #indiechat -9:25 PM Oct 16th, 2012



KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn kinda ya. I write what comes to mind and them drop them in order. Scrivener makes it sooo easy. #indiechat -9:25 PM Oct 16th, 2012



ReviewerRachel @Addison_Moore @susankayequinn Yes, I'd really love for my readers to feel for him! but I have as of yet to dig up that layer... #indiechat -9:25 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Addison_Moore @DougSolter Agree. I just need a loose roadmap. #indiechat -9:25 PM Oct 16th, 2012



chandahahn I outline- then write from the hip. It's all based on how much my characters grow and change and where they take me for the ride #indiechat -9:25 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @LM_Preston Do you like autocrit? #indiechat -9:25 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Addison_Moore @aehowardwrites Hello! #indiechat -9:26 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn @aehowardwrites Welcome Anna! #indiechat -9:26 PM Oct 16th, 2012



aehowardwrites @susankayequinn after or during... usually. Some day soon I might switch that up though, I have a more complex world brewing #indiechat -9:26 PM Oct 16th, 2012



KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn do you mean you draw them? #indiechat -9:26 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn THIS @HeatherSunseri: @susankayequinn Im becoming more and more of an outliner. Mainly b/c I hate fixing a non-outlined book. :) #indiechat -9:26 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Addison_Moore @LM_Preston Is she on twitter? I think I get the same feed. love her. #indiechat -9:26 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Froze8 @laurapauling Love beta reading, it's like an advanced advanced readers copy. Really neat! #indiechat -9:26 PM Oct 16th, 2012



aehowardwrites @addison_moore Hi! *waves* #indiechat -9:27 PM Oct 16th, 2012



HeatherSunseri @Addison_Moore about JSB? Yeah. He's got a few out that are e-book. I just read his one geared toward self-publishing. Very good. #indiechat -9:27 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Addison_Moore @heatherselflol! So true.wonderful way to build a better villain. @ReviewerRachel @SPNHeather @laurapauling #indiechat -9:27 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn @KatGirl_Studio I wish! #notanartist No, I word sketch them on tiny squares of paper #indiechat -9:27 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling I love beta reading too. It's a different thought process. #indiechat -9:27 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston @laurapauling Yes, it's one of the tools I use previous to sending out to beta readers. Mainly because I like the same words lol! #indiechat -9:27 PM Oct 16th, 2012



TORRESpamela Totally agree! Hey, hello everyone! RT @Froze8: @laurapauling Love beta reading, it's like an advanced advanced readers copy. #indiechat -9:28 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @LM_Preston I usually have some word or phrase repetition problems too. #indiechat -9:28 PM Oct 16th, 2012



KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn I've never heard of this before. #indiechat -9:28 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Stacey_WB I try to outline, but I'm mostly a pantser. What I do, though, is write the beginning and the end and then fill in the middle. :) #indiechat -9:28 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @TORRESpamela Hi and welcome! #indiechat -9:28 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Addison_Moore @HeatherSunseri I'll have to check it out. I really like him. #indiechat -9:28 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Juliana_Haygert @laurapauling It's a great way to improve our own craft too. #indiechat -9:28 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn What's your strategy toward self-improvement? I try to tackle one or two weak areas in every book. #indiechat -9:28 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling I remember character arc was a big one for me. I just didn't get it when I started writing. #indiechat -9:28 PM Oct 16th, 2012



ulbrichalmazan Hi #indiechat! Does anyone here feel that working with editors improves their writing? -9:28 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @ulbrichalmazan I think working with the right editor would. #indiechat -9:29 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Addison_Moore @Stacey_WB Yes! I need to know the beginning and the end. #indiechat -9:29 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Froze8 @susankayequinn @Addison_Moore Hahaha! I love this! #indiechat -9:29 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @ulbrichalmazan I guess in ways similar to a beta read but maybe even more mind blowing. #indiechat -9:29 PM Oct 16th, 2012



TORRESpamela @Stacey_WB Sometimes I find that once I have an outline the white page isn't so intimidating. Don't always follow it. #indiechat -9:29 PM Oct 16th, 2012



HeatherSunseri @laurapauling I've struggled with character arcs, especially for the secondary characters. They need them too. #indiechat. -9:29 PM Oct 16th, 2012



heatherself @Addison_Moore yeah I don't worry about liking em that way ;) #indiechat @ReviewerRachel @SPNHeather @laurapauling -9:29 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Addison_Moore @ulbrichalmazan A million times YES!!! #indiechat -9:29 PM Oct 16th, 2012



KatGirl_Studio @ulbrichalmazan I know it improved mine. My editor is great =^.^= #indiechat -9:29 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @HeatherSunseri Yes. Character arc and making all the characters three-dimensional. #indiechat -9:30 PM Oct 16th, 2012



aehowardwrites @stacey_wb That's close to what I do, I often know my beginning and end, and then figure out how to get from A to B #indiechat -9:30 PM Oct 16th, 2012



crankyashley @laurapauling I find that writing out of order really helps with accidental repetitions #indiechat -9:30 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston Here's a blogpost I did on all the Editing Tools I use BEFORE sending my mss to the editor, http://t.co/9kQHtrcZ #indiechat -9:30 PM Oct 16th, 2012



DougSolter I get lost without it sometimes. RT @Addison_Moore Agree. I just need a loose roadmap #indiechat -9:30 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn @KatGirl_Studio My plotting Corkboard of Doom with scene squares. #indiechat #amplotting http://t.co/dWDGwsEk via @TwitPic -9:30 PM Oct 16th, 2012



crankyashley @Stacy_WB I pants then when I get to the 25/30K pt where I get stuck, I go back and outline #indiechat -9:30 PM Oct 16th, 2012



crankyashley @Tweetdeck keeps freezing up on me #indiechat >_< -9:31 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Juliana_Haygert @ulbrichalmazan What @laurapauling said. Becuase I've worked with meh editors, and it did nothing for me. #indiechat -9:31 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Stacey_WB @crankyashley I've done it that way too! I'll try anything once. lol #indiechat -9:31 PM Oct 16th, 2012



TORRESpamela I saw a chart once, can't remember the author but she charted every character arc to be sure they had one. #indiechat -9:31 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @TORRESpamela I can see that being helpful. #charts #indiechat -9:32 PM Oct 16th, 2012



KatGirl_Studio @susankayequinn I have this whole weird way of doing things. #indiechat -9:32 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Juliana_Haygert Sometimes I just fill in a BeatSheet (Save the Cat by Blake Snyder) and go with it only. #indiechat -9:32 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Froze8 @ulbrichalmazan As a reader I say yes. I can tell when I book has not been edited and it is a shame b/c I see the potential #indiechat -9:32 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @Juliana_Haygert I've had too many writers tell me they paid for a develop. editor to hear the same things crit partners said. #indiechat -9:32 PM Oct 16th, 2012



crankyashley @Stacey_WB It really helps me see what I have and what I need. I write by scene out of order. #indiechat -9:32 PM Oct 16th, 2012



TORRESpamela @laurapauling And then you can use colored markers. Cool! #indiechat #fun -9:32 PM Oct 16th, 2012



DougSolter Thanks! Nice list. @LM_Preston: #indiechat -9:32 PM Oct 16th, 2012



HeatherSunseri @laurapauling @TORRESpamela I think I'm too impatient to chart arcs, which is exactly why I should. #indiechat -9:32 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @Juliana_Haygert But it's something I'd try with the right recommendation. #indiechat -9:33 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn I loves the beat sheet. @Juliana_Haygert Sometimes I just fill in a BeatSheet (Save the Cat by Blake Snyder) and go with it only. #indiechat -9:33 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Juliana_Haygert GMC: Goal, Motivation & Conflict by Debra Dixon - one of the best craft books I ever read. #indiechat -9:33 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling I'll write a character's name I'm charting in the sidebar of Scrivener to help keep track of appearances. #indiechat -9:34 PM Oct 16th, 2012



aehowardwrites @susankayequinn I like! I have a line strung across my desk with paper clothes pinned to it... #indiechat @katgirl_studio -9:34 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Juliana_Haygert @laurapauling exactly. Sometimes it just needs the right editor. #indiechat -9:34 PM Oct 16th, 2012



MaganVernon Second time daughter is in time out tonight. Probably wont make #Indiechat if she doesn't go to bed soon -9:34 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn @laurapauling I agree (editors vs. CPs) yet I'm going to try out a dev. editor next year (in addition to CPs). #experiment #indiechat -9:34 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston After our first release using just 1 editor, I wanted to improve our work but on small budget. tools help RT @DougSolter #indiechat -9:34 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn @aehowardwrites Paper clothes?? Like for your characters? #indiechat -9:34 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @susankayequinn With the right word of mouth, I would try it. Just to see. #indiechat -9:34 PM Oct 16th, 2012



HeatherSunseri Reading craft books when I'm almost done with a story makes me realize how far I still have to go as a writer. #indiechat #alwayslearning -9:34 PM Oct 16th, 2012



ulbrichalmazan @lm_preston That looks like an interesting blogpost. I'll have to check it out later. #indiechat -9:35 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn @laurapauling Recommendations are key. #indiechat -9:35 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @HeatherSunseri But that attitude means you're doing something right. #indiechat -9:35 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling When we think we have nothing else to learn we're in trouble. #indiechat -9:35 PM Oct 16th, 2012



TORRESpamela @HeatherSunseri I do that all the time. It's even worse when you've finished a book and working on the second. Can't go back… #indiechat -9:35 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Juliana_Haygert THIS. We never stop learning. RT @laurapauling: When we think we have nothing else to learn we're in trouble. #indiechat -9:36 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn So true. @laurapauling: When we think we have nothing else to learn were in trouble. #indiechat -9:36 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling With self publishing it's so easy to focus on publication schedules and writing the next book. But we have to grow as writers 2. #indiechat -9:36 PM Oct 16th, 2012



TORRESpamela @laurapauling For sure! I like to think of myself as coachable. #indiechat -9:36 PM Oct 16th, 2012



ulbrichalmazan A good dev. editor catches things the betas miss. I hope what I've learned from mine on this book will carry over to the next. #indiechat -9:37 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Addison_Moore @HeatherSunseri Me, too! Learning is a gift that I hope never ends. #indiechat -9:37 PM Oct 16th, 2012



BiblioCrunch @susankayequinn @laurapauling Which is why we created BiblioCrunch to begin with, to get quality professionals to writers #indiechat -9:37 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @BiblioCrunch That's awesome! Is there a way for word of mouth to work with your site? #indiechat -9:37 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston @ulbrichalmazan Thanks, the tools help you find your repetitive mistakes. You have to get mss clean b4 editor gets it #indiechat -9:37 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn @laurapauling Yes! So important for indies to focus on self-improvment of craft first; writing second; everything else last #indiechat -9:38 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Stacey_WB RT With self publishing its so easy to focus on publication schedules & writing the next book. But we have to grow as writers 2. #indiechat -9:38 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Addison_Moore @susankayequinn Loved Save the Cat! @Juliana_Haygert #indiechat -9:38 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Lisa_Nowak @ulbrichalmazan I agree. My betas don't catch big scale plotting things so much. #indiechat -9:38 PM Oct 16th, 2012



aehowardwrites @susankayequinn no, like the sheets of paper them like so: http://t.co/5nxsEWE6 #indiechat -9:38 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston I also do feed the craft by participating in critique groups, volunteering and sharing my growth with other authors too #indiechat -9:39 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn @Addison_Moore @Juliana_Haygert Have you red Save the Cat Strikes Back? #indiechat -9:39 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling What's everyone top way to improve in craft? #indiechat Just shout it out. -9:39 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Addison_Moore @TORRESpamela I love that idea! I'm implementing it! #indiechat -9:39 PM Oct 16th, 2012



TORRESpamela Amen,we wear so many hats. RT @laurapauling: With self publishing it's so easy to focus on publication and the next book.#indiechat -9:39 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @susankayequinn Did you like the cat strikes back? #indiechat -9:39 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn @aehowardwrites Ah! I would be afraid they would fall down. #needstrongpins! #indiechat -9:39 PM Oct 16th, 2012



ulbrichalmazan @susankayequinn That's what Dean Wesley Smith and Kristine Katherine Rusch recommend. #indiechat -9:39 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Juliana_Haygert @susankayequinn not yet. Did you? Should I get to it fast? @Addison_Moore #indiechat -9:39 PM Oct 16th, 2012



aehowardwrites @laurapauling totally. It's not worth pushing and sacrificing quality and self-improvment #indiechat -9:39 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn Studying bestsellers @laurapauling: Whats everyone top way to improve in craft? #indiechat -9:39 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Addison_Moore @aehowardwrites Coolest picture ever. I love stuff like this! @susankayequinn #indiechat -9:39 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn YES very worthwhile @laurapauling: @susankayequinn Did you like the cat strikes back? #indiechat -9:40 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling For me lately, it's been reading a lot! #indiechat -9:40 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn @Juliana_Haygert @Addison_Moore Cat Strikes Back has GREAT section on Act III #indiechat -9:40 PM Oct 16th, 2012



BiblioCrunch @laurapauling Yep, we have reviews on the site, so you can check the professionals profiles for those and their portfolios :) #indiechat -9:40 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston Does anyone take down a list of their writer's 'ticks' to make sure you edit those out after the 1st draft? #indiechat -9:40 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Addison_Moore @laurapauling Read, read, read. Write, write, write. Edit and then send off to the editor. ;) #indiechat -9:40 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling How do you all improve your style? #practice #reading Does anyone freewrite to practice? #indiechat -9:40 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Juliana_Haygert @laurapauling reading. And applying the beatsheet to every movie I watch, and book I read ;) (I started that bc of you!) #indiechat -9:41 PM Oct 16th, 2012



susankayequinn Have to run #indiechatters. Be cool! :) #indiechat -9:41 PM Oct 16th, 2012



aehowardwrites @susankayequinn haha! some of that's still from #FlightofBlue so it hasn't fallen yet! #indiechat -9:41 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @BiblioCrunch Awesome! #indiechat -9:41 PM Oct 16th, 2012



TORRESpamela Reading is the best thing for improving craft. I keep a notebook of the things I learn. #Indiechat -9:41 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Addison_Moore @susankayequinn @Juliana_Haygert Just made a note to check that out! #indiechat -9:41 PM Oct 16th, 2012



crankyashley @LM_Preston I don't need to. I see them as I write, silently yell at myself, and worry about it later #indiechat -9:41 PM Oct 16th, 2012



aehowardwrites @susankayequinn and there's less on #TheGuardians b/c I'm still writing that one, of course ;-) #indiechat #whywouldIplot -9:41 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @Juliana_Haygert :) I love breaking down movies. Incredibly helpful in studying pacing. #indiechat -9:41 PM Oct 16th, 2012



HeatherSunseri @TORRESpamela I keep note books of things I learn as I read as well. #indiechat -9:41 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling RT @HeatherSunseri: @TORRESpamela I keep note books of things I learn as I read as well. #indiechat -9:42 PM Oct 16th, 2012



aehowardwrites @susankayequinn buh bye! #indiechat -9:42 PM Oct 16th, 2012



KatGirl_Studio @LM_Preston No. mostly in editing I'm fixing dyslexic mistakes. #indiechat -9:42 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston Lol! 4 me, it's a blur @crankyashley: I don't need to. I see them as I write, silently yell at myself, and worry about it later #indiechat -9:42 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Juliana_Haygert @Addison_Moore @susankayequinn I thought it was going to be kinda repeated. But I'll check that out too #indiechat -9:42 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Addison_Moore @laurapauling I love when you do it for me, lol! Loved those blog posts. @Juliana_Haygert #indiechat -9:42 PM Oct 16th, 2012



aehowardwrites @addison_moore thank you! :-) #indiechat -9:42 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Stacey_WB @LM_Preston I have a running tally. Rolled their eyes. Snorted. Totally. Back is my big one. I heart that word for some reason. #indiechat -9:42 PM Oct 16th, 2012



TORRESpamela @laurapauling @Juliana_Haygert You are good at it Laura I remember Aladin and what was the other one's you did! Great #indiechat -9:42 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @Addison_Moore I learned so much by breaking down different kinds of books. #indiechat -9:43 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @TORRESpamela I did Tangled. #indiechat Is that what you're thinking of? -9:43 PM Oct 16th, 2012



HeatherSunseri My twitter feed is going nuts. #debate vs. #indiechat :) -9:43 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston @Stacey_WB I have those same words on my list, lol! #indiechat -9:43 PM Oct 16th, 2012



aehowardwrites @lm_preston no... that's not a bad idea tho. Although seeing them all in one place might depress me ;-) #indiechat -9:44 PM Oct 16th, 2012



aehowardwrites RT @laurapauling: RT @HeatherSunseri: @TORRESpamela I keep note books of things I learn as I read as well. #indiechat -9:44 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling My break down of Tangled in 15 sentences. #indiechat http://t.co/w5kDvLeY -9:44 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @TORRESpamela I did How To Train Your Dragon too. #indiechat -9:45 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston @aehowardwrites Oh my, I get that #indiechat -9:45 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling Movies have pacing down to a science. #indiechat -9:45 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Stacey_WB @LM_Preston Do you let yourself use them ever? I allow them in the first draft and then cut MOST of them out later. #indiechat -9:45 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling But I also love finding a book that breaks all the rules. #indiechat -9:45 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Addison_Moore RT @laurapauling: My break down of Tangled in 15 sentences. #indiechat http://t.co/w5kDvLeY -9:46 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling sometimes terrific writing can make up for weak structure. #indiechat -9:46 PM Oct 16th, 2012



aehowardwrites YES! @laurapauling: But I also love finding a book that breaks all the rules. #indiechat -9:46 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @Stacey_WB And back usually isn't needed. I find that too. #indiechat -9:47 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Addison_Moore @laurapauling *sigh* that is my weakness. I love reading them a little too much for my own good. #indiechat -9:47 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @HeatherSunseri I'm trying to ignore debate tweets. #indiechat -9:47 PM Oct 16th, 2012



TORRESpamela Okay, timer went off/ dinner.I'm amazed how fast you all read/type. I suck! Fun, have to try again next time. Happy Writing!! #indiechat -9:48 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling What's the biggest area of craft everyone struggles with? #indiechat -9:48 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling Or maybe we don't know what our biggest area is. lol #indiechat -9:48 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston 1st draft anything goes RT @Stacey_WB:Do you let yourself use them ever?. #indiechat -9:48 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Stacey_WB @laurapauling Exactly! My record is using back five times in one four sentence paragraph. It's an addiction. :) #indiechat -9:48 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @Stacey_WB That's CPs are for. #indiechat -9:49 PM Oct 16th, 2012



TORRESpamela @laurapauling Mine is description, I tend to truncate. Couldn't resist. #Indiechat -9:49 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston @laurapauling @HeatherSunseri Lol! I'm doing both since I'm a multi-tasking ADD Hyper writer #indiechat -9:49 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Froze8 @laurapauling For me in general as a student I struggle with sentence structure, grammar. The nuts and bolts. #indiechat -9:49 PM Oct 16th, 2012



HeatherSunseri I was until I saw one that made me L-O-L RT @laurapauling: @HeatherSunseri I'm trying to ignore debate tweets. #indiechat -9:49 PM Oct 16th, 2012



aehowardwrites @laurapauling Plotting... I totally pants it and plot later, which works, but the first two drafts are a mess before I get sorted #indiechat -9:49 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling I'm an underwriter so I always have to flesh out scenes later. #indiechat -9:49 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling And I have this wacky sense of humor. I always delete those scenes. #indiechat -9:50 PM Oct 16th, 2012



HeatherSunseri That's what I want to try with next book. RT @laurapauling: I'm an underwriter so I always have to flesh out scenes later. #indiechat -9:50 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @aehowardwrites Yes, but if pantsing works then it works. #indiechat -9:50 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Addison_Moore @laurapauling Me, too. That's why the first few edits always take so long. #indiechat -9:50 PM Oct 16th, 2012



HeatherSunseri @laurapauling Like I can change my ways from book to book. Possible? #indiechat -9:50 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @aehowardwrites I can't pants a novel to save my life. #indiechat -9:51 PM Oct 16th, 2012



crankyashley Do you save things you've deleted just on case you can use them later? I save everything! #indiechat -9:51 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Stacey_WB @TORRESpamela @laurapauling Definitely description/underwriting for me too. #indiechat -9:51 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston This year with nanowrimo I'm trying to practice writing fast, no stopping, and slimming down my write time from 3 mos to 1 month #indiechat -9:51 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Addison_Moore @laurapauling Oh gosh, those are the ones you should keep! lol! #indiechat -9:51 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @HeatherSunseri I'm doing better once I realized I do it. #indiechat -9:51 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Juliana_Haygert @crankyashley me too! #indiechat -9:51 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @Addison_Moore No, really. :) I shouldn't. #indiechat -9:51 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Addison_Moore @laurapauling I've pantsed myself in a corner before. Never tried that again. @aehowardwrites #indiechat -9:51 PM Oct 16th, 2012



aehowardwrites @laurapauling true and it does work, plotting for me has killed novels. Maybe I don't know my biggest area I struggle with. hmm. #indiechat -9:52 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Lisa_Nowak @crankyashley I do. I have a whole separate deleted scenes doc for each book. #indiechat -9:52 PM Oct 16th, 2012



crankyashley @Lisa_Nowak Me too! I started it because I had one scene that was painful for me to delete. I hope to get to use it. #indiechat -9:52 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @aehowardwrites I believe u. I tried to pants once and had to quit after 6 chapters. Never worked on that story again. #indiechat -9:52 PM Oct 16th, 2012



aehowardwrites @laurapauling oh, I get stuck and my characters start yelling at me... those scenes have to go... #indiechat -9:53 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling So think of your weakest area. Then think of one way to improve tomorrow in your writing. #indiechat -9:53 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Stacey_WB @Addison_Moore I always pants myself into a corner and have to dig myself out. Sometimes it works, sometimes I have to scrap it! #indiechat -9:53 PM Oct 16th, 2012



KatGirl_Studio @crankyashley I use scrivener but i do keep a deleted section in it for each project. #indiechat -9:53 PM Oct 16th, 2012



aehowardwrites Okay folks, bedtime for the lil 'un. I'll catch you all next time, I hope ;-) #indiechat -9:53 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @KatGirl_Studio me too. #indiechat -9:53 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Stacey_WB @Lisa_Nowak I do that too. You never know when you might need that one sentence. #indiechat -9:54 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Froze8 @crankyashley Deleted scenes are cool! #indiechat -9:54 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @aehowardwrites Good night! #indiechat -9:54 PM Oct 16th, 2012



crankyashley @KatGirl_Studio Scrivener had too much going on for me >_< #indiechat -9:54 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @crankyashley Scrivener has a learning curve. But now I love it. #indiechat -9:54 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston What is your challenge for your CRAFT this year? Have you met it? #indiechat -9:55 PM Oct 16th, 2012



KatGirl_Studio @crankyashley I'm going to be talking about it in my new blog starting this winter. #indiechat -9:55 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Stacey_WB @laurapauling Okay, I vow to not self-edit the next time I sit down to write. No matter what. Not even if I type o instead of a. #indiechat -9:55 PM Oct 16th, 2012



crankyashley @laurapauling I think it (seems to) works best for people who plan a lot. And since I don't plan… :) #indiechat -9:55 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Froze8 Time for me to eat something, I'm starving, Interesting topic this week. #indiechat -9:55 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling Tomorrow I'll give myself permission to let my character think without cutting her off. #indiechat -9:56 PM Oct 16th, 2012



KatGirl_Studio @Stacey_WB I sit down and write a whole section then go back later and fix any typos. #indiechat -9:56 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Lisa_Nowak @crankyashley If nothing else, use it as bonus material in a blog hop or on your website. #indiechat -9:56 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @crankyashley Very true! #indiechat -9:56 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Stacey_WB @LM_Preston Following and sticking to a production schedule. I'm the earner in my family and I need to treat my work like a job! #indiechat -9:56 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Addison_Moore @laurapauling OK, then next time just send them to me. I've got a twisted sense of humor. #indiechat -9:57 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling If you had to advise one craft book to a beginner writer, what book would it be? #indiechat -9:58 PM Oct 16th, 2012



ulbrichalmazan Time to put my son to bed. Goodnight #indiechat! -9:58 PM Oct 16th, 2012



BiblioCrunch Great chat tonight! Hopefully this is something we'll cover on the blog #indiechat oh dont forget @srjohannes interview http://t.co/BAyaVdFT -9:58 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Addison_Moore @CountryAndTacos I guess we need the best of both worlds. #indiechat -9:58 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Lisa_Nowak @laurapauling How to Write a Damn Good Novel by James N. Frey #indiechat -9:58 PM Oct 16th, 2012



LM_Preston @Stacey_WB I work a full-time job too and it's a struggle to write at the pace I'd like #indiechat -9:59 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling Blog post by @susankayequinn on the Indelible blog about growing in craft. Terrific post. http://t.co/RHBdgkZy #indiechat -9:59 PM Oct 16th, 2012



Juliana_Haygert @laurapauling Plot & Structure by James Scott Bell. Or GMC: goal, motivation & conflict by Debra Dixon. Preferably both ;) #indiechat -9:59 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling @Lisa_Nowak I have the mystery one by him. #indiechat -10:00 PM Oct 16th, 2012



laurapauling Thanks for talking craft tonight, everyone! Set goals! Challenge yourself to write better! #indiechat -10:00 PM Oct 16th, 2012