More than a Trope

As a New Adult author I'm used to the typical New Adult storyline that has everyone rolling their eyes.

 

Bad Boy

 

Plus

 

Virginal good girl with a dark past

 

Equals

 

Mind blowing sexual love story

The dark past, in many books, has been that the girl has been raped. There have been countless New Adult books with this theme. And...(Mild spoiler, but it's kind of obvious) I wrote a book with a girl that was raped.

I was really scared on how people would respond to it. I didn't want people to think I was just cashing in on the trope, but then I knew that I needed to tell this story.

Why?

Because not all of the events in The Only Exception are fictional.

This is the first time I've talked about it in an open forum. My cps knew about it, my friend Katie knows about, my husband, and some other resources like YWCA stepping stones.

No I didn't get involved with a governor's son, or have to get the Morning after Pill. But I did deal with the slut shaming, the constant looking over my shoulder, and the isolation. I didn't think I could write about my experience. I still can't talk about all of the details. I actually didn't even think anything of it for a long time.

I was a senior in college. I went out for my friend's 21st birthday. We were all drinking and then took a cab over to a party. I was engaged at this time, but my fiancé stayed home. I wished he would have came, but I thought I was fine in a group of friends. The party was at a fraternity house in which I was friends with a lot of the guys. I remember it had been awhile since I'd gone and was excited that I had lost so much weight in the past few months and could wear a short skirt and dance around like my other friends.

I thought it was my fault that I was drunk.

I thought it was my fault for wearing my short skirt.

I thought it was my fault that I even sat down on the bench next to the guy.

I didn't talk about it for a long time. I didn't think it was a big deal. He didn't "rape" me I thought. Then I started to hear other girls' stories and that was when I got to courage to talk to my fiancé and my best friend, Katie, about it.

Katie told me, "what he did to you is considered rape."

I never reported him. I still felt guilt after that night. My "friends" who were with me looked the other way.

Writing The Only Exception was like digging the hole again. I didn't think I could do it. My critiuqe partners wanted me to go there. They said that I couldn't dance around the issue. Then I read stories like the Stubenville rape case and Lizzy Seeberg's story. I knew the story that had to be written. I knew that my character wasn't going to just heal by having a sexual encounter with a guy. That's not how the real world works. I had her go to counseling. I had her deal with real life scenarios. I wanted her story to speak to people and hopefully help someone.

Rape is more than a trope and that's how I wrote it. I love what writers like Colleen Hoover have done in which they do put resources for people struggling with the same issues, in the back of their book.

If you or anyone you know is struggling with rape or sexual assault, there are a number of resources. You don't have to feel like you are a trope. You don't have to feel helpless.

RAINN they have resources, including state and federal ones and where to get counseling and other help.  You don't have to do this alone.

 

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Magan Vernon is an international bestselling author of New Adult and Young Adult. When not writing she enjoys spending time with her husband and two little girls. You can find her online at www.maganvernon.com

INDIE-ReCon - an online conference for self publishing!

Hi guys!

Do I have a surprise for you! :)

A small group of indie writers has pulled together and is hosting a FREE online conference on everything INDIE in Feb 2013!

Welcome to the first INDIE ReCon - Make Indie Publishing a Mission Possible

Are you curious about Indie publishing, but don't know where to start?  Or, are you already a published Indie author looking to boost your sales or expand your reach?  Then you'll want to attend a new exciting online conference happening in 2013 - INDIE Revolution Conference.  Or as we like to call it, INDIE ReCon.

INDIE ReCon is happening online from February 12-14, 2013.

INDIE ReCon is a FREE, ONLINE conference that is modeled after the awesome annual WriteOnCon. It is designed to help any writer or author who is curious about the ins and outs of Indie publishing. 

However any author or writer can attend because we cover topics all of you may want to know more about (marketing etc)

Everything from the pros and cons of Indie publishing, essential aspects in creating a high-quality book, successful online marketing, and expanding into International markets. 

We will feature over 30 guests that include industry experts as well as some of the bestselling adult and young adult authors in the publishing industry today including: Bob Mayer, Hugh Howey, M. Leighton, and Samantha Young (just to name a few).  

For three days, INDIE ReCon will highlight new topics every hour (sometimes every half hour) for 8 hours a day which will include interviews, blog posts, vlogs, and live online chats.  You'll receive advice from authors, bloggers, marketing partners, cover designers, editors, and more.  You can check out our line up of topics and guests on our website.

Did we mention it's FREE and ONLINE? Well, there's more. Tons of Giveaways! There will be awesome giveaways from each and every speaker and partner. This will include books as well as services like free book designs, free editing, book development services, marketing prizes, and more. 

So mark your calendars for Feb 12-14th!

But, more importantly, sign up now with your email and we'll be sure to send you updates, news, and reminders as the conference gets closer so you won't forget. 

You won't find this much information (or excitement) about Indie publishing anywhere else. The hosts, partners, and presenters are all giving their time and knowledge for free for one simple reason: they're excited about being Indie and they want to help you decide if it's right for you too.  

You can already sign up on the home page to receive updates and news.

We hope you join us at INDIE ReCon - where we'll help you make Indie publishing a mission possible!

See you there!

Founders/Hosts:

S.R. Johannes

Ali Cross

Laura Pauling

Jessie Harrell

Heather McCorkle

Cheri Lasota

Special thanks to our partners:

ALLi

Bibliocrunch

IndieReader

Kindle Fire Department

World Literary Cafe

Coming full circle as a self-pubber

(Magan circa her first pregnancy 2010 with authors Claudia Gray, Kiersten White, and Sophie Jordan)

 

 

 

When I decided to go the indie route I was completely delusional. No joke I thought I'd put up my first alien book and be the next Amanda Hocking. It didn't exactly go that way and I went through some stages of grieft.

 

1.)  I suck

That's the first thing that went through my head. No wonder my books wont sell, I'm a terrible writer, blah blah blah. But I had a supporter group of writer friends that pushed me to keep going.

 

2.) Everyone else sucks

 

This is where it got really sticky. I put out a ton of money for ads, new covers, all this other stuff and my books didn't sell. So I started attacking other others. "How does her book sell so well? IT SUCKS!" It wasn't one of my finest moments and it just made me angry and not fun to be around.

 

3.) Maybe I'll try something else?

 

I think this was my turning point. This was the moment I decided to put out My Paper Heart on a wing and a prayer. I thought maybe it would be nice to at least have another book on my shelf and then the sales blew me out of the water. The fans of the original alien books weren't as excited about a New Adult contemporary, but from it I found a whole new crop of fans.

 

4.)  OMG this other Indie author is awesome, buy her books!

 

I'm going to have to give it up to Chelsea Cameron on this one. I approached her about being critique partners and that was when I got a sneak peak of My Favorite Mistake. I was blown away by her writing and wanted everyone and their mom to read her book. She probably just made the NY times best seller list because I wouldn't shut up about her.  (Actually she wrote an awesome book that's how she made it).

 

Yeah, it looks that simple when I write it in these four steps, but there was a lot of heartache before I came full circle. There are still days that I wonder if it's worth it to keep writing. Those are the days that I go to my Twitter or check my fan emails from people that say they love my series. I may not be one of the self-pubbers with a six figure deal or hitting the New York Times best seller list, but at this point I'm super exciting for those that have.

 

Maybe someday I'll get there, but for now I'm going to keep writing and keep being a cheerleader for all my self-pub brothers and sisters. We can only hold on to so many grudges for so long and there is no reason to be angry at someone for doing well. If I fall back down, I know my fans are there to help me back up again.

 

Have you come full circle as a writer or an author? What are your set backs?

 

 

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Magan Vernon is a Young Adult and New Adult writer who lives with her family in the insurance capital of the world. She is in a very serious, fake relationship with Adam Lambert and constantly asks her husband to wear guyliner. He still refuses. She also believes her husband is secretly an alien, disguised as a southern gentleman. You can find her online on her blog or purchase her books through Amazon or Barnes and Noble. She also blogs and talks about randomness here.



Where are the books for my age group?

When I was in high school there wasn't much for the YA genre. I think the only young adult book in my school library was Sloppy Firsts and that technically wasn't even considered YA. So, I spent most of my young adulthood reading VC Andrews and learning the real meaning of flowers in the attic.

Fast forward to college. I didn't have time to read much more than a college textbook, but my roommate was OBSESSED with the Twilight books. I didn't want to read them. They couldn't be like my favorite Anne Rice novels, could they?

They weren't. BUT there was something about the young adult writing style that drew me to it. I always thought I COULD be a writer, but just figured I could be the next AC360 instead.

Fast forward again and I'm a college graduate, working part-time and studying for some insurance exams. I wanted a story for something in MY age group, the college kids. I thought about my own college experience and wanted to write a book about a girl that fails out of her freshman year of college and is forced to move with her great aunt in the rural south.

I wrote it in a few months, edited, used critique partners, and then I learned about the path to publication. What did people mean when they said there wasn't a genre for this age between young adult books and adult books?

I queried anyway. Some agents wanted it, some didn't. I did end up finding an agent. I thought she was my golden ticket! I even found out a publishing house had branded this genre 'New Adult' and had a special section for these characters in the phase between young adult and adult.

I brought this up to the agent. Her response? "Yeah, that's one publishing house. It doesn't mean that it's going to create a new genre in the book store." So I re-edited it, again, this time to make it more of a women's fiction piece. It didn't work as women's fiction. It didn't work as a story with a sixteen-year-old girl getting it on with her southern boyfriend. It was time to shelf it and time for my agent to shelf me.

I worked on How to Date an Alien and eventually indie published it, but the voice of my New Adult characters still lingered in my head. As I got deeper into the indie world I realized that New Adult and Upper YA was alive and well. There were best sellers like Abbi Glines and Jessica Park who were flying up the charts with their college-aged characters. I knew at that point that my former agent wasn't completely right about New Adult. Sure you can't go into a book store and find it, but if you check the Amazon best seller charts, you will see that New Adult is alive and well.

I hope you all had a chance to join our #indiechat on Twitter the other night and got some awesome information about the New Adult genre. If you didn't, our transcripts are always available!
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There are worse things in life than failing out of college- such as having your parents receive the letter that you’ve been kicked out.
Now to appease her parents self-proclaimed sorority princess Libby Gentry is packing up her Prada bag and heading to work for her great aunt’s antique store in tiny Elsbury, Louisiana. She’s pretty sure she can tackle the swamp and deal with her great aunt and tom boy of a little cousin, but what she doesn’t know is if she can handle the local town playboy, Blaine Crabtree.

As Libby's feelings for Blaine grow, so does her need for acceptance and all of the insecurities she has kept inside are coming out. She may have survived the Louisiana swamp, but she may not survive Blaine's reluctance to say the 'L' word. When Blaine finally commits to the three words Libby’s been waiting for, she only hopes they haven’t come too late.

Available for your Ereader on August 6th, but add it to your GoodReads now!


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Magan Vernon is a self-proclaimed geek-to-glam poster child and the Amazon best-selling author of the My Alien Romance series. The first book, How to Date an Alien is currently FREE for Kindle and Nook and just about anywhere else that sells ebooks.

My Paper Heart is her upcoming New Adult novel that was a labor of love and almost four years in the making.

Transcripts for #Indiechat 7/10/12 New Adult

laurapauling Looking forward to chatting about New Adult with everyone and the girls from New Adult Alley! #indiechat -8:59 PM Jul 10th, 2012

KatGirl_Studio Hi everyone! #indiechat -8:59 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB @Juliana_Haygert Hi Juliana! I know you from #ROW80. Glad you could make it. #indiechat -8:59 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 #indiechat I'm here! Representing @NAAlleyBlog How's it going twitter peeps :) -8:59 PM Jul 10th, 2012

teresamorrow Hi everyone #indiechat -8:59 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 #indiechat @Juliana_Haygert Hello my friend ;) @NAAlleyBlog -9:00 PM Jul 10th, 2012

LM_Preston @VictoriaSmith76 Hi! #indiechat -9:00 PM Jul 10th, 2012

CarrieAButler Another @NAAlleyBlog contributor here! :) #indiechat -9:00 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB @VictoriaSmith76 Hi Victoria! Good to see you here! #indiechat -9:00 PM Jul 10th, 2012

srjohannes welcome! RT @CarrieAButler: Another @NAAlleyBlog contributor here! :) #indiechat -9:00 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell there seems to be a requirement that we tweet, "Hi everyone!" when we arrive. LOL! #indiechat -9:00 PM Jul 10th, 2012

LM_Preston @KatGirl_Studio You made it :-D #indiechat thankfully so did I. -9:00 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB Tweetchat better stop sassing me. Seriously. #indiechat -9:01 PM Jul 10th, 2012

LisaSanchez3 Woot Happy to follow this chat today. #indiechat -9:01 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon Alright, sorryIm late, but I'm here for #indiechat Let's talk New Adult! -9:01 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB @CarrieAButler Hello! Awesome so many @NAAlleyBlog people are here tonight! #indiechat -9:01 PM Jul 10th, 2012

srjohannes you what up! shelli in the house (is that better?) @jessieharrell #indiechat -9:01 PM Jul 10th, 2012

BiblioCrunch Hi, everyone! RT @JessieHarrell there seems to be a requirement that we tweet, "Hi everyone!" when we arrive. LOL! #indiechat -9:01 PM Jul 10th, 2012

patricialynne07 #Indiechat time, tweeplez. Assemble!! ;) -9:02 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling So who here writes New Adult? Or wants to? #indiechat -9:02 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @Stacey_WB Hi! Good to be here #indiechat -9:02 PM Jul 10th, 2012

LisaSanchez3 I write New Adult! #indiechat -9:02 PM Jul 10th, 2012

AncientEye Hello! #indiechat -9:02 PM Jul 10th, 2012

patricialynne07 @laurapauling What exactly is New Adult. I've seen the term and have somewhat of an idea. #indiechat -9:03 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Juliana_Haygert *raises hand* New Adult writer here, soon to be author #indiechat -9:03 PM Jul 10th, 2012

lgkelso and another @NAAlleyBlog contributer here! (For a bit anyway) #indiechat -9:03 PM Jul 10th, 2012

CarrieAButler Thanks for the welcome, @Stacey_WB & @srjohannes! :) #indiechat -9:03 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam @laurapauling ME!!! I'm 30,000 words into my first New Adult project. It'll be out in September. #isreallyreallyexcited #indiechat -9:03 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling @Juliana_Haygert Do you have a book release soon? #indiechat -9:03 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB @laurapauling I was going to ask the same thing.:) And WHY do you write NA as opposed to YA...or why both? #indiechat -9:03 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell maybe we should start by defining new adult. do we all agree what it is? #indiechat -9:03 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling @chel_c_cam Very cool! #indiechat -9:03 PM Jul 10th, 2012

BiblioCrunch @Stacey_WB @CarrieAButler @NAAlleyBlog ooh! curious to hear all about you ladies! #indiechat -9:03 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling @JessieHarrell Great questions. #indiechat -9:04 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Juli_Alexander I'm supposed to be writing, but #indiechat looks like more fun. -9:04 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling What exactly is New Adult? #indiechat Does it have to be set in college? -9:04 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB @patricialynne07 Here's a blog post I wrote about NA: http://t.co/5cgMCE1A #indiechat -9:04 PM Jul 10th, 2012

LisaSanchez3 I've got a 18 yr old daughter. I write what I know, and I love the genre :) #indiechat -9:04 PM Jul 10th, 2012

CarrieAButler @laurapauling Me! My NA ParaRom, STRENGTH, comes out in March from @SapphireStarPub. :) #indiechat -9:05 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Lisa_Nowak Hey everyone! #indiechat -9:05 PM Jul 10th, 2012

teresamorrow what is the definition of new adult versus YA? Probably silly question but I write contemporary romance and it cld be NA #indiechat -9:05 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam For me, it reaches the age group of 17-25 ish. Not adult, not YA. In the middle. #indiechat -9:05 PM Jul 10th, 2012

patricialynne07 RT @Stacey_WB: @patricialynne07 Heres a blog post I wrote about NA: http://t.co/DBvf7NNz #indiechat -9:05 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Juliana_Haygert @laurapauling It doesn't need to be set in college, it just corresponds to the college-years #indiechat -9:05 PM Jul 10th, 2012

AngelaCarlie Hello, everyone. #indiechat -9:05 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB @laurapauling My NA stories are not set in college - but the MC is college age. #indiechat -9:05 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell @patricialynne07 my understanding is that new adult is edgier than YA and the MCs are just a little older... #indiechat -9:05 PM Jul 10th, 2012

KatGirl_Studio @laurapauling are we talking about New Adult tonight? #indiechat -9:05 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam What she said. RT @Juliana_Haygert: @laurapauling It doesnt need to be set in college, it just corresponds to the college-years #indiechat -9:06 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling @KatGirl_Studio Yep! #indiechat -9:06 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling @KatGirl_Studio The girls from New Adult Alley are with us. #indiechat -9:06 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB @chel_c_cam Exactly! #indiechat -9:06 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 #indiechat Im personally a 20something and I wasn't seeing stories about peeps my age I feel so much growth happens in our 20s. Its needed! -9:06 PM Jul 10th, 2012

lgkelso @laurapauling I have seen some that could still be NA even though the MC is a senior in hs @Juliana_Haygerti #indiechat -9:06 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling So other than age what sets it apart from YA? or adult? #indiechat -9:06 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Juliana_Haygert @laurapauling I don't have a date yet, but I just signed the contract with @lyricalpress #indiechat -9:06 PM Jul 10th, 2012

KatGirl_Studio @laurapauling coolness. #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling @Juliana_Haygert Congrats! #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012

srjohannes i think it is not only age but also content and depth of content. #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012

LisaSanchez3 @Juliana_Haygert Congrats! #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Karen_Hooper Yara in Tangled Tides is JUST turning 18 in book 1. So I guess it counts as New Adult. No high school scenes at all. #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell @teresamorrow not silly at all. it's not a clearly-defined category yet #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Juliana_Haygert @laurapauling @LisaSanchez3 Thanks! Super excited ;) #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012

AngelaCarlie Typically, who is the target audience for NA? #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Lisa_Nowak @VictoriaSmith76 It's amazing the amount of growth that happens in those college years. #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012

TheRealCyberelf RT @Juliana_Haygert *raises hand* New Adult writer here, soon to be author #indiechat SINCERE CONGRATS! Very proud! -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell @Juliana_Haygert congrats!! #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam My NA is set in college, and centers around a lot of issues you have. Roommates, figuring out who you are, choosing career, etc. #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Juliana_Haygert And that too ... RT @srjohannes: i think it is not only age but also content and depth of content. #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012

AngelaCarlie @Juliana_Haygert Congratulations! #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling Most traditional YA seem to have 15 and 16 year olds. #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam @Juliana_Haygert Wow, congratulations! #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012

srjohannes @Juliana_Haygert sounds cute :) #indiechat -9:07 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon Indie books are the best place to find New Adult books with authors like @Stacey_WB @AbbiGlines #indiechat -9:08 PM Jul 10th, 2012

srjohannes RT @MaganVernon: Indie books are the best place to find New Adult books with authors like @Stacey_WB @AbbiGlines #indiechat -9:08 PM Jul 10th, 2012

KatGirl_Studio @laurapauling My Marked Ones Trilogy is technically New Adult #indiechat -9:08 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 #indiechat my #newadult novel THE CRIMSON HUNT is being published as well through @CuriosityQuills. Publishers ARE wanting NA ;D -9:08 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell @VictoriaSmith76 that's true. I think publishers assume college kids don't have time to read, so no stories for you! #indiechat -9:08 PM Jul 10th, 2012

K23Detectives #indiechat I got a question, do anything starring teenagers and their problems have to be YA? -9:08 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam Another series I have starts out at the end of high school and goes to first semester in college. I'm still calling it YA. #indiechat -9:08 PM Jul 10th, 2012

patricialynne07 I think my next release could go in NA. MC is 18 & bit more swearing than I'd put in my YA stories. #indiechat -9:09 PM Jul 10th, 2012

lgkelso Exactly! RT @srjohannes: i think it is not only age but also content and depth of content. #indiechat -9:09 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam RT @MaganVernon: Indie books are the best place to find New Adult books with authors like @Stacey_WB @AbbiGlines #indiechat -9:09 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB @MaganVernon Aw, thanks! Magan's about to publish a contemporary NA novel too. #indiechat -9:09 PM Jul 10th, 2012

CarrieAButler @laurapauling There also tends to be a big focus on (life) transition in NA. #indiechat -9:09 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @VictoriaSmith76 So good to see so many people with NA books! #indiechat -9:09 PM Jul 10th, 2012

KatGirl_Studio @JessieHarrell which is silly because I read more in college than Middle school and HS combine. #indiechat -9:09 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling So there is a clear difference b/t NA and YA - what makes it NA and not adult ot her than age? #indiechat -9:09 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell @K23Detectives not necessarily, but I'd say predominately. depends a lot on who your audience is going to be #indiechat -9:10 PM Jul 10th, 2012

LM_Preston I wondered that RT @laurapauling: So there is a clear difference b/t NA and YA - what makes it NA and not adult ot her than age? #indiechat -9:10 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @K23Detectives Not necessarily. Look at Fifteen Minutes by Jodi Picoult. That stars teenagers, but is a very adult book #indiechat -9:10 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB @K23Detectives No. If there are older characters involved...I'd call it Family Saga. #indiechat -9:10 PM Jul 10th, 2012

K23Detectives #indiechat I ask because my superheroine novel stars four 16 years olds but I'm loath to call it young adult -9:10 PM Jul 10th, 2012

jayceedelorenzo Hi, all! What are we talking about? #indiechat -9:10 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam Some other great NA authors are @JamieMcguire_ and @amy_a_bartol #indiechat -9:10 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @Juliana_Haygert #indiechat It's about the experience. If I read a story about an indep.16 year old mom I'd consider that NA! @srjohannes -9:10 PM Jul 10th, 2012

srjohannes @K23Detectives depends. Lovely bones came out in adult and it is about a 15 yr old and her family but delas with tough topics #indiechat -9:10 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Karen_Hooper Agree! @VictoriaSmith76 #indiechat Im a 20something and I wasn't seeing stories about peeps my age. So much growth happens in our 20s. -9:11 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Juliana_Haygert @laurapauling tone, language and the stage of life. #indiechat -9:11 PM Jul 10th, 2012

K23Detectives @Stacey_WB I don't write romance, but there are plenty of adults around and aliens too. #indiechat -9:11 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @chel_c_cam My upcoming NA novel deals with a girl failing out of college. We need more books with trials of college life. #indiechat -9:11 PM Jul 10th, 2012

rlynn_solomon Hi all. My NA (completed) is about a grad school dropout working in a restaurant. Thrilled to learn more about the (sub) genre! #indiechat -9:11 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell @chel_c_cam it's a lot about content... if you'd be okay with a younger teen reading it, then I think YA is the right label #indiechat -9:11 PM Jul 10th, 2012

CarrieAButler @jayceedelorenzo We're defining NA and sharing how it differs from other categories. :) #indiechat -9:11 PM Jul 10th, 2012

srjohannes @VictoriaSmith76 good point! #indiechat -9:11 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Juliana_Haygert @laurapauling Adult novels are more worried about paying bills. NA are worried about getting a job, learning to live alone #indiechat -9:11 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell @K23Detectives why? what about the young adult title bothers you? #indiechat -9:11 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam @MaganVernon Amen to that! #indiechat -9:11 PM Jul 10th, 2012

K23Detectives @JessieHarrell late teen-20s comic book readers. #indiechat -9:11 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB @laurapauling I think it's the opposite of the NA vs. YA - it's what you pull back from writing. #indiechat -9:12 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell RT @Juliana_Haygert: Adult novels are more worried about paying bills. NA are worried about getting a job, learning to live alone #indiechat -9:12 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam @JessieHarrell The content is definitely suitable for younger audiences, so I'm not to worried about the age thing. #indiechat -9:12 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @KatGirl_Studio #indiechat this seems to be the biggest argument. I DO read and I'm in grad school. NA is happening :D @JessieHarrell -9:12 PM Jul 10th, 2012

srjohannes @laurapauling i think that is why they say there are not tween or NA genres - b/c they fall into other groups #indiechat -9:12 PM Jul 10th, 2012

K23Detectives @JessieHarrell Because I get middle age women who read it and then complain about the violence in A SUPER HERO NOVEL #indiechat -9:12 PM Jul 10th, 2012

jayceedelorenzo @CarrieAButler Thanks! Sounds good. #indiechat -9:13 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @Juliana_Haygert #indiechat very true my sista! @laurapauling -9:13 PM Jul 10th, 2012

BiblioCrunch Has anyone read The Beach? #indiechat Thoughts? -9:13 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB Why do you think the indie community is more accepting of NA. We all seem to be going for it! #indiechat -9:13 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MeganCashman My upcoming book is about a college graduate. Definitely not YA, so NA it is? #indiechat -9:13 PM Jul 10th, 2012

BiblioCrunch ps @Addison_Moore, when are you coming out with your last book! #indiechat -9:13 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell @K23Detectives gotcha. comic books should have their own category all to themselves! #indiechat -9:13 PM Jul 10th, 2012

KatGirl_Studio I just write the book the way the story needs to be written and figure out what to label it later. #indiechat -9:13 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling I don't read any traditional books with the characters in their young twenties. But I could've missed them. #indiechat -9:13 PM Jul 10th, 2012

LisaSanchez3 @Stacey_WB Because the indie community is willing to take risks #indiechat -9:13 PM Jul 10th, 2012

CarrieAButler @Stacey_WB We're not afraid to take risks for what we believe in. ;) #indiechat -9:14 PM Jul 10th, 2012

K23Detectives Whats NA and MC by the way #indiechat -9:14 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam @Stacey_WB The indie community, as a whole, is much more willing to take risks. There is a market and they're catering to it. #indiechat -9:14 PM Jul 10th, 2012

BiblioCrunch Sorry, what does NA stand for? #indiechat -9:14 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB @MeganCashman I'd say so. #indiechat -9:14 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @Karen_Hooper #indiechat Too true! First houses, kids, bills, some of us first loves. So much great stuff happens in NA! :D -9:14 PM Jul 10th, 2012

patricialynne07 What she said! RT @LisaSanchez3: @Stacey_WB Because the indie community is willing to take risks #indiechat -9:14 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Lisa_Nowak It seems like a lot of adult novels fall into some other genre. Romance, mystery, thriller, etc. #indiechat -9:14 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling So what publishing routes are the girls at NA Alley taking? Small press? Self publishing? #indiechat -9:14 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell @K23Detectives NA = new adult; MC = main character #indiechat -9:14 PM Jul 10th, 2012

patricialynne07 @BiblioCrunch New Adult #indiechat -9:14 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon Tweet chat is not working well for me. My responses will be slow. #indiechat -9:15 PM Jul 10th, 2012

KatGirl_Studio @BiblioCrunch New Adult #indiechat -9:15 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB @BiblioCrunch New Adult #indiechat -9:15 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB @K23Detectives MC = Main Character #indiechat -9:15 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam I've heard author after author who has an NA book that trad pubs won't touch because there "isn't a market for it." #indiechat -9:15 PM Jul 10th, 2012

K23Detectives and New Adult is 18-29 target age? #indiechat -9:15 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @MeganCashman Definitely #newadult and potentially adult depending on how it's worded ;D #indiechat -9:15 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MeganCashman I'm very thrilled to have learned about this genre. My book is neither YA or adult, so I at last have a category for it! #indiechat -9:15 PM Jul 10th, 2012

CarrieAButler @laurapauling So far, three of us have had luck with small publishers. :) #indiechat -9:16 PM Jul 10th, 2012

LisaSanchez3 @chel_c_cam Yes! I was told time and again my college aged books had no market. #indiechat -9:16 PM Jul 10th, 2012

jayceedelorenzo @laurapauling Both. #indiechat 3 of my NA Sisters have just signed contracts with small presses. -9:16 PM Jul 10th, 2012

K23Detectives @chel_c_cam That why I never approached traditional publishers, I write stuff there's no market for. #indiechat -9:16 PM Jul 10th, 2012

KatGirl_Studio @K23Detectives sometimes includes 17 year olds too. #indiechat -9:16 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling @CarrieAButler That's terrific. So much excitement! #indiechat -9:16 PM Jul 10th, 2012

teresamorrow Learning tons abt NA w/ @carrieAbutler @jessieharrell @rylnn_solomon @juliana_haygert @srjohannes @stacey_wb @laurapauling #indiechat -9:16 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam So good to hear! Yay small press :) RT @CarrieAButler: @laurapauling So far, three of us have had luck with small publishers. :) #indiechat -9:16 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell @MeganCashman unfortunately, I don't think it's widely recognized. a publisher made up the label & it's caught on w/ some #indiechat -9:16 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Karen_Hooper That's the beauty of indie publishing. We can start the NA wave, and traditionals will see there's a market for it. #indiechat -9:17 PM Jul 10th, 2012

lgkelso @laurapauling there are some but they are few and far between #indiechat -9:17 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon I think Indie books like Beautiful Disaster and Easy hitting the NY times best seller list proves that NA does sell #indiechat -9:17 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam @LisaSanchez3 I don't understand that at all. Probably because it doesn't make any sense. #indiechat -9:17 PM Jul 10th, 2012

patricialynne07 @MeganCashman Me too. I have a short story that I had no idea how to categorize until I heard about NA. =) #indiechat -9:17 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @Stacey_WB #indiechat I think theyre willing to take more chances because it's not just about the numbers for them. Good work is first! -9:17 PM Jul 10th, 2012

CarrieAButler @chel_c_cam @laurapauling Yay, indeed! Thanks, Chelsea. :) #indiechat -9:17 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling I have Easy and What A Boy Wants on my tbr list. #indiechat -9:17 PM Jul 10th, 2012

LisaSanchez3 @chel_c_cam It makes no sense, lol! Thanks goodness for small presses and indie publishing! #indiechat -9:18 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling I don't have time to read all the books I want to read. #indiechat -9:18 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @KatGirl_Studio #indiechat Very important. That's how I work as well! -9:18 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Karen_Hooper Yes! @MaganVernon I think Indie books like Beautiful Disaster and Easy hitting the NY times best seller list proves that NA sells #indiechat -9:18 PM Jul 10th, 2012

LisaSanchez3 @laurapauling Great books! #indiechat -9:18 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB We've talked about the insides of the books - but what about covers? I think you can do things differently there too. #indiechat -9:18 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam Me too! Also BD. RT @laurapauling: I have Easy and What A Boy Wants on my tbr list. #indiechat -9:18 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chrstinef RT @LisaSanchez3: @chel_c_cam It makes no sense, lol! Thanks goodness for small presses and indie publishing! #indiechat -9:18 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling @chel_c_cam I finally read BD last week. I really liked it. #indiechat -9:18 PM Jul 10th, 2012

KatGirl_Studio @laurapauling Easy looks really good, it keeps coming up on my Amazon 'You might like this" #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon Let's throw out another question. What about NA covers? How are they different than YA? #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MeganCashman @JessieHarrell True since it seems new. But my book will be self-pubbed later this summer, so maybe I could market it as NA? #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012

LM_Preston That's when you have audiobooks RT @laurapauling: I don't have time to read all the books I want to read. #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Lisa_Nowak Is there particular subject matter that makes a book NA? Does it have to be edgy? #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @laurapauling #indiechat small press :D @NAAlleyBlog -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling @KatGirl_Studio I liked the sample pages of all of those books. #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam @Stacey_WB I see a lot of simplicity in NA covers. Easy and BD come to mind. #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell @Stacey_WB gah - covers are tough. adult covers are so boring (IMO). #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012

jayceedelorenzo @MaganVernon Yep! In fact, Beautiful Disaster and its follow up is about to be mainstream published. She just announced it. #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling @chel_c_cam Simple but very effective. #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012

LisaSanchez3 RT @chel_c_cam: @Stacey_WB I see a lot of simplicity in NA covers. Easy and BD come to mind. #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @Stacey_WB Jinx #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012

KatGirl_Studio @MaganVernon good point. #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling @jayceedelorenzo Good for her. #indiechat -9:19 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam @JessieHarrell Agreed! #indiechat -9:20 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @jayceedelorenzo Ha! Did not even see that! D you have where she announced it? #indiechat -9:20 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Battista_j THis just solved my problem of what to categorize my co-authored series as. #indiechat -9:20 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 #indiechat Beautiful Disaster just got signed to a Big 6. Go NA! http://t.co/XJu1f57n -9:20 PM Jul 10th, 2012

UtopYAcon Hop on the #indiechat NOW to discuss NA #newadult books! -9:20 PM Jul 10th, 2012

BiblioCrunch @Stacey_WB I love what @srjohannes is doing with her book cover. Crowdsourcing! #indiechat -9:20 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB @chel_c_cam Right. There are a lot of girl face covers in YA (guilty) but I sexed it up a bit with the NA covers. :) #indiechat -9:20 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam @laurapauling Exactly. That's what I'm going to try when I have to do one. #indiechat -9:20 PM Jul 10th, 2012

LisaSanchez3 @MaganVernon My small press created simple covers for my NA books. #indiechat -9:20 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MeganCashman I think it depends on the genre. My book is a vampire one, so my cover indicates that. #indiechat -9:20 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling @JessieHarrell YA covers are more like art. Adult covers can get away with anything. #indiechat -9:20 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon RT @VictoriaSmith76: #indiechat Beautiful Disaster just got signed to a Big 6. Go NA! http://t.co/XJu1f57n -9:21 PM Jul 10th, 2012

KatGirl_Studio @JessieHarrell I totally agree, nothing about adult covers entices me other than the October Daye books. #indiechat -9:21 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Globug70 RT @chel_c_cam: Some other great NA authors are @JamieMcguire_ and @amy_a_bartol #indiechat -9:21 PM Jul 10th, 2012

jflamingo2 @JessieHarrell @VictoriaSmith76 #indiechat Yet,nowadays,all ages are at colleges.Late bloomers or realize we can't make it w/o college. -9:21 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @LisaSanchez3 I think that seems to be the trend. Less is more in NA. #indiechat -9:22 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @MeganCashman Definitely don't be afraid of small presses. Many love NA! @CuriosityQuills @SapphireStarPub @JessieHarrell #indiechat -9:22 PM Jul 10th, 2012

CarrieAButler @Lisa_Nowak Not necessarily. It's more about the transition into adulthood. If that involves edginess, so be it. :) #indiechat -9:22 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam I'm using NA to share some of my crazy college stories. There are a few *wink wink* #indiechat -9:22 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling @VictoriaSmith76 Not sure I want to read the sequel b/c the main characters were happy at end of book 1. #indiechat -9:22 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Quiet_Noise @chel_c_cam I self published to not worry about all that stuff!! #indiechat -9:23 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @Stacey_WB @chel_c_cam Guilty as well. I focused on hot people for YA and emotion for NA. #indiechat -9:23 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB I feel like a lot of NA is romance oriented - similar to YA. Any NA fantasy or Syfy writers out there? #indiechat -9:23 PM Jul 10th, 2012

CarrieAButler RT @VictoriaSmith76: #indiechat Beautiful Disaster just got signed to a Big 6. Go NA! http://t.co/XJu1f57n -9:23 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell @laurapauling @katgirl_studio - maybe I've just been spoiled by YA covers, but they are some compelling! #indiechat -9:23 PM Jul 10th, 2012

jflamingo2 @laurapauling Some YA series are progressive in age as they have them grow up from 13 on up... #indiechat -9:23 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam @Stacey_WB There's a wide open market. All NA I see is contemp. #indiechat -9:24 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @jflamingo2 true! It's about the journey into adulthood more than anything no matter what the age :D @JessieHarrell #indiechat -9:24 PM Jul 10th, 2012

patricialynne07 @Stacey_WB I noticed that too so any romance in my stories take a back seat. ^^ #indiechat -9:24 PM Jul 10th, 2012

LisaSanchez3 @VictoriaSmith76 I've seen some great paranormal NA. #indiechat -9:24 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @chel_c_cam haha! Awesome! #indiechat Gotta love inspiration! -9:24 PM Jul 10th, 2012

RebeccaTomorrow RT @K23Detectives: and New Adult is 18-29 target age? #indiechat -9:24 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @Stacey_WB @laurapauling Since we are smack dab in the middle should we throw up a NA book giveaway? #indiechat -9:24 PM Jul 10th, 2012

KatGirl_Studio I don't know if I'd call DITM's cover simple but its a NA cover. #indiechat -9:24 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB @chel_c_cam Hee hee. Mine's paranormal romance. :) #indiechat -9:25 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling @Stacey_WB Love sells. #indiechat -9:25 PM Jul 10th, 2012

jayceedelorenzo @laurapauling @VictoriaSmith76 Book 2 is the same story from Travis' POV, I believe. #indiechat -9:25 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling @jayceedelorenzo Interesting. Hmm. Don't know what I think about that. #indiechat -9:25 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB @MaganVernon Do it. #indiechat -9:25 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon RT @laurapauling: @Stacey_WB Love sells. #indiechat -9:25 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam @Stacey_WB Yay! We need more of that stuff. #indiechat -9:25 PM Jul 10th, 2012

srjohannes hoping 2 highlight talented peeps w/creative covers RT @BiblioCrunch <3 what @srjohannes is doing w/ her bk cover. Crowdsourcing! #indiechat -9:25 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @Stacey_WB Many different kinds. @YAtopia_blog held a NA pitch contest today. There were soooo many that weren't romance. #indiechat -9:25 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Lisa_Nowak @CarrieAButler So would my friend's book qualify if it's about an 18-y-o pregnant girl in the 50s? It's kind of a "sweet" story. #indiechat -9:25 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Battista_j @Stacey_WB Dark fantasy here.#indiechat -9:26 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Karen_Hooper @chel_c_cam @Stacey_WB Not true! Tangled Tides can be considered NA and it's fantasy/paranormal. :) #indiechat -9:26 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam Yes, it is. RT @jayceedelorenzo: @laurapauling @VictoriaSmith76 Book 2 is the same story from Travis POV, I believe. #indiechat -9:26 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @laurapauling I think NA isn't just about a love story, but a lot of them do deal with loving yourself. Gosh I'm cheesy. #indiechat -9:26 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam @Karen_Hooper *adds books to TBR pile* #indiechat -9:26 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @Stacey_WB But really romance is about 50% of the market in general anyway :) #indiechat -9:26 PM Jul 10th, 2012

patricialynne07 @BiblioCrunch It hits the college age. Characters don't have to be in college, but they are between 17-29. #indiechat -9:27 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling @VictoriaSmith76 I'll admit I like there to be a romantic element. #indiechat -9:27 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell I think Entangled Publishing is doing more NA. e.g., HUSHED by Kelley York is classified as YA but it's real more NA in my mind. #indiechat -9:27 PM Jul 10th, 2012

k_castorena @Stacey_WB So this might be a stupid question but what in the world is NA? #indiechat -9:27 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB @VictoriaSmith76 True that. I *may* have been stirring the pot a little. :) #indiechat -9:27 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @jayceedelorenzo Yep. #indiechat @laurapauling -9:27 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon Alright throwing it out there. Tell me why you love NA and you will get an EARC of my debut NA My Paper Heart #indiechat -9:27 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam @JessieHarrell Entangled is the shiz :) #indiechat -9:28 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling @MaganVernon I love NA - what I've read of it so far - b/c it's more mature. #indiechat -9:28 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB @k_castorena New Adult - category between YA and Adult #indiechat -9:28 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Juliana_Haygert @Stacey_WB I write fantasy too, but there's always some romance in it #indiechat -9:28 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling But I've always ended up liking the older YA too. #indiechat -9:28 PM Jul 10th, 2012

CarrieAButler @Lisa_Nowak Absolutely! The category tells the reader what to expect. In this case, it's a life transition into adulthood. :) #indiechat -9:28 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @chel_c_cam @Stacey_WB @LynnRush writes NA paranormal from the guys POV ;) Wasteland is amazing! #indiechat -9:28 PM Jul 10th, 2012

patricialynne07 @JessieHarrell I started reading Hushed and I definitely think it fits into the NA easily. #indiechat -9:28 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @Stacey_WB @victoriasmith76 I think there is a romance in everything, even Harry Potter. #indiechat -9:28 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell @k_castorena new adult -- targets the 18-29 range #indiechat -9:28 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam @MaganVernon It reminds me of college, and I really miss those days. #happytimes #indiechat -9:28 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Karen_Hooper @chel_c_cam Aww, I wasn't trying to sell it. Just sayin some of us have NA fantasy out. No high school whatsoever in the ocean ;) #indiechat -9:28 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB RT @MaganVernon: Alright throwing it out there. Tell me why you love NA and you will get an EARC of my debut NA My Paper Heart #indiechat -9:28 PM Jul 10th, 2012

KatGirl_Studio @MaganVernon I love it because its about people who are my age with things that effect me. #indiechat -9:29 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling RT @MaganVernon: Alright throwing it out there. Tell me why you love NA and you will get an EARC of my debut NA My Paper Heart #indiechat -9:29 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @Lisa_Nowak Yep! NA historical ;) #indiechat@CarrieAButler -9:29 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam @Karen_Hooper Sell away! I love doing these chats because I always find new books :) #indiechat -9:29 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Lisa_Nowak @CarrieAButler Cool. She's just getting ready to publish for the first time. It'll help if she has a genre to target. #indiechat -9:29 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @MaganVernon Very true! @Stacey_WB #indiechat -9:29 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Karen_Hooper RT @MaganVernon: Alright throwing it out there. Tell me why you love NA and you will get an EARC of my debut NA My Paper Heart #indiechat -9:30 PM Jul 10th, 2012

KatGirl_Studio @MaganVernon mostly adult is too old for me. i don't have kids I'm not married (yet) i just can't relate to them. #indiechat -9:30 PM Jul 10th, 2012

jayceedelorenzo Mine NA is full of romance, but not the kind you'll find in your typical romance novel. #indiechat -9:30 PM Jul 10th, 2012

KatGirl_Studio @MaganVernon I want to read about people who are in the same life stage as me. #indiechat -9:30 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @Karen_Hooper @chel_c_cam You can be a mermaid and be NA. If your growing your tail into adulthood your good ;D #indiechat -9:30 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling Very true! RT @jflamingo2: @laurapauling Books are a business after all. #indiechat -9:30 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell @MaganVernon I love NA b/c you can take more risks than in YA. characters have more realistic freedoms. #indiechat -9:30 PM Jul 10th, 2012

KatGirl_Studio @jayceedelorenzo like what? #indiechat -9:31 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling Plus you don't have to deal with the parents to the same degree as with YA. #indiechat -9:31 PM Jul 10th, 2012

k_castorena @Stacey_WB O alrighty! That makes since b/c some YA books I've read seemed a little more A vs Y but not quite all the way Adult #indiechat -9:31 PM Jul 10th, 2012

srjohannes i think i am too immature to write NA :) #indiechat -9:31 PM Jul 10th, 2012

BiblioCrunch RT @patricialynne07: @BiblioCrunch It hits the college age. Characters don't have to be in college, but they are between 17-29. #indiechat -9:31 PM Jul 10th, 2012

CarrieAButler @Lisa_Nowak Wish her luck for me! :) If she has any questions, you can always direct her to the 'Alley: http://t.co/MUzT78eg #indiechat -9:32 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling Honestly, I love any story Middle grade, YA, NA, adult if I connect to it. #indiechat -9:32 PM Jul 10th, 2012

TLT16 But there has always been some NA - think High Fidelity, MTV publishing - they just didn't have a label for it. I think. #indiechat -9:32 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Karen_Hooper @VictoriaSmith76 Yes, my mermaid MC had to become an adult way too fast. LOTS of responsibility and pressure. #indiechat -9:32 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell Destined probably should have been NA, but I cut out the marriage & kid and made the myth YA #indiechat -9:32 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Lisa_Nowak @srjohannes LOL! I know what you mean. #indiechat -9:32 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @jayceedelorenzo I'm NA Sci-Fi Romance *grins* #indiechat NA is all around! -9:32 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam @srjohannes LOL. It takes all kinds an you do YA so well. Why change? #indiechat -9:32 PM Jul 10th, 2012

jayceedelorenzo @Stacey_WB @MaganVernon #indiechat I'm do have the whole kids, marriage, mortgage thing, but still love the age group. It's fascinating! -9:32 PM Jul 10th, 2012

CarrieAButler RT @laurapauling: Honestly, I love any story Middle grade, YA, NA, adult if I connect to it. #indiechat -9:32 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Sarah_Nicolas OH HI THERE #indiechat I don't write NA or read too much of it, but I want it to be a thing. I wrote this about it: http://t.co/fK3o9eSQ -9:32 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Juliana_Haygert RT @laurapauling: Honestly, I love any story Middle grade, YA, NA, adult if I connect to it. #indiechat -9:33 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon What are the best ways that you all find to market NA? Blogs? Tags? Ads? #indiechat -9:33 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Juliana_Haygert I love YA but sometimes I get tired of omg-that-guy-is-hot-but-I've-never-been-kissed-before thing. NA jumps that phase ;) #Indiechat -9:33 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Lisa_Nowak @CarrieAButler Cool. Thanks. :) #indiechat -9:33 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @KatGirl_Studio @MaganVernon Definitely check out @NAAlleyBlog Book Rec Tab. Over 300 NA books accessible! #indiechat -9:33 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling @MaganVernon True. I guess it would have to go under adult on Amazon. #indiechat -9:33 PM Jul 10th, 2012

LisaSanchez3 @MaganVernon I'm interested in hearing answers to this! #indiechat -9:33 PM Jul 10th, 2012

srjohannes @Lisa_Nowak im afraid NA requires more boy part appearances. or is that erotica? #indiechat -9:33 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam NA can happen. There just have to be enough of us to push for it. *starts pushing* #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012

KatGirl_Studio @MaganVernon blogs and events #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Juliana_Haygert EXACTLY! RT @chel_c_cam: NA can happen. There just have to be enough of us to push for it. *starts pushing* #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling @srjohannes Thats' erotica. I've read many sweet adult books with no mention of boy parts. #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012

CarrieAButler @Sarah_Nicolas And this is why we love you. :D #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB RT @Sarah_Nicolas I dont write NA or read too much of it, but I want it to be a thing I wrote this about it: http://t.co/c0wBOdVb #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012

BiblioCrunch Kindle Select? RT @MaganVernon What are the best ways that you all find to market NA? Blogs? Tags? Ads? #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012

miztrebor RT @chel_c_cam: NA can happen. There just have to be enough of us to push for it. *starts pushing* #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012

KatGirl_Studio @srjohannes that's erotica #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @jayceedelorenzo @stacey_wb Yeah, I can pretend to be an adult all I want, but I'm a young adult at heart #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Juliana_Haygert @Sarah_Nicolas <3 #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @laurapauling I LOVE that! NA peeps can do there thing and not worry about the 'rents! It's real life! #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling I think writing a great story will sell NA. #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell RT @MaganVernon: What are the best ways that you all find to market NA? Blogs? Tags? Ads? #indiechat -9:34 PM Jul 10th, 2012

overdunne Hey there, folks. Joining in late... #indiechat -9:35 PM Jul 10th, 2012

srjohannes the romance must be upped a notch though - @KatGirl_Studio @laurapauling #indiechat #indiechat -9:35 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling @VictoriaSmith76 No need to make the parents neglectful or dead. #indiechat -9:35 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB RT @chel_c_cam: NA can happen. There just have to be enough of us to push for it. *starts pushing* #indiechat -9:35 PM Jul 10th, 2012

srjohannes ur sweet :) @chel_c_cam #indiechat #indiechat -9:35 PM Jul 10th, 2012

BiblioCrunch Is there a blog anywhere that covers NA? Or NA bestsellers? Totally curious about the genre now and want to buy/download some #indiechat -9:35 PM Jul 10th, 2012

CarrieAButler RT @chel_c_cam: NA can happen. There just have to be enough of us to push for it. *starts pushing* #indiechat -9:35 PM Jul 10th, 2012

LisaSanchez3 RT @Stacey_WB: RT @chel_c_cam: NA can happen. There just have to be enough of us to push for it. *starts pushing* #indiechat -9:35 PM Jul 10th, 2012

patricialynne07 RT @chel_c_cam: NA can happen. There just have to be enough of us to push for it. *starts pushing* #indiechat -9:35 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @Juliana_Haygert Ha love this! The whole never-been-kissed thing..ehhh #indiechat -9:35 PM Jul 10th, 2012

TLT16 @KatGirl_Studio @srjohannes Apparently there is a distinction between Erotic Fiction and Erotica. I am not sure what it is. #indiechat -9:35 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell @MaganVernon you & me both - although I'm starting to have to face the fact that I'm getting old(er) #indiechat -9:35 PM Jul 10th, 2012

KatGirl_Studio @srjohannes true. I think DITM does a pretty ok job at that. #indiechat -9:36 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Juliana_Haygert @BiblioCrunch Head over to @NAAlleyBlog #indiechat http://t.co/FcGraZ55 -9:36 PM Jul 10th, 2012

rlynn_solomon Yes! RT @chel_c_cam: NA can happen. There just have to be enough of us to push for it. *starts pushing* #indiechat -9:36 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB @BiblioCrunch Check out @NAAlleyBlog #indiechat -9:36 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Lisa_Nowak @VictoriaSmith76 Yeah. And that adds so much potential for trouble/conflict as they're discovering the world. #indiechat -9:36 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @BiblioCrunch Then you have to only be on Amazon. #indiechat -9:36 PM Jul 10th, 2012

CarrieAButler @overdunne Hi, Brenda! #indiechat -9:36 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling @srjohannes I've read some pretty romance/love intense YA books. #indiechat They aren't all sweet and innocent. -9:36 PM Jul 10th, 2012

BiblioCrunch RT @Stacey_WB: @BiblioCrunch Check out @NAAlleyBlog #indiechat -9:36 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Lisa_Nowak @laurapauling But I do so love to create neglectful parents. Sigh. #indiechat -9:36 PM Jul 10th, 2012

LisaSanchez3 @laurapauling Same here. #indiechat -9:37 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling @srjohannes as you know. #indiechat -9:37 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Juliana_Haygert @MaganVernon NA is pretty new w/o a lot of exposure, but I guess the regular stuff. Blog tour, twitter, facebook, word of mouth #indiechat -9:37 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @JessieHarrell Where is Jillian Dodd when I need her? She owns her young sorority girl thing and I'm half asleep at 8:30 #indiechat -9:37 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Sarah_Nicolas Sorry #indiechat people. Trying to catch up. Sorry other people, you may want to mute me for 23 more minutes #indiechat -9:37 PM Jul 10th, 2012

BiblioCrunch But it helps you get your name out and get more readers RT @MaganVernon @BiblioCrunch Then you have to only be on Amazon. #indiechat -9:37 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam RT @Juliana_Haygert: @BiblioCrunch Head over to @NAAlleyBlog #indiechat http://t.co/32NBpwhr #indiechat -9:37 PM Jul 10th, 2012

rlynn_solomon I call my book women's fiction in queries but MC is in early 20s. Not sure how to market now that I'm in the query stage. #indiechat -9:37 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling A college age student can't get away with never-been-kissed. #indiechat -9:38 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell @MaganVernon I was all the way asleep at 8:30. Made hubs wake me up so I wouldn't miss the chat. #indiechat -9:38 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @Lisa_Nowak @laurapauling Right! You don't have to take them out! lol #indiechat -9:38 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB @rlynn_solomon If you're querying small press, I'd say NA. Big 6 doesn't really recognize. #indiechat -9:39 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @TLT16 @KatGirl_Studio @srjohannes Am I out of line in saying there's NA erotica, lol Technically 50 shades falls into it #indiechat -9:40 PM Jul 10th, 2012

jayceedelorenzo Have fun, everyone. Have to feed the kids. #indiechat -9:40 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling I haven't read enough NA books to know how most of them deal with the romance. #indiechat -9:40 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @rlynn_solomon When I queried My Paper Heart I used "Upper YA." My MC is nineteen. #indiechat -9:40 PM Jul 10th, 2012

srjohannes so is Fifty shades of gray New adult? #indiechat -9:40 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam @VictoriaSmith76 I was going to say the same thing! #indiechat -9:40 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling @MaganVernon I wouldn't be surprised if agents had a problem with a 19 year old character. #indiechat -9:40 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Juliana_Haygert You can sell NA to Big 6, you just have to name it differently ;) But I would rather take my time and fight for it #indiechat -9:40 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @VictoriaSmith76 @tlt16 @katgirl_studio @srjohannes Fifty Shades is New Adult, no argument there. #indiechat -9:41 PM Jul 10th, 2012

LisaSanchez3 @srjohannes I'd classify it as adult #indiechat -9:41 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB @VictoriaSmith76 @MaganVernon and I were saying that too! Ick? #indiechat -9:41 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @Stacey_WB @rlynn_solomon Yes and Yes. Only if the sm press states they've been known to accept it though. If not rework #indiechat -9:41 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Sarah_Nicolas I think the point of NA isn't the age or college or whatever. It's about the issues/themes specific to that time in life #indiechat -9:41 PM Jul 10th, 2012

TLT16 @VictoriaSmith76 @katgirl_studio @srjohannes Is if Erotica or Erotic Fiction? I really am interested in the distinction. #indiechat -9:41 PM Jul 10th, 2012

willentrekin RT @laurapauling: "I wouldn't be surprised if agents had a problem with a 19 year old character." #indiechat -9:41 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling @Sarah_Nicolas Good point. I agree. #indiechat -9:41 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @jayceedelorenzo #indiechat Bye bye. TTYL :) -9:41 PM Jul 10th, 2012

LisaSanchez3 RT @laurapauling: @MaganVernon I wouldn't be surprised if agents had a problem with a 19 year old character. #indiechat -9:41 PM Jul 10th, 2012

KatGirl_Studio @MaganVernon they use that in manga. They have always had teen and older teen categories. It's the US who's behind the times. #indiechat -9:42 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @laurapauling I had an agent with my NA book, we just couldn't decide whether to p her age to be adult or lower her age to be YA #indiechat -9:42 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Juliana_Haygert @laurapauling oh, they have. They always asked me to lower or raise the age ... #indiechat -9:42 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB RT @Sarah_Nicolas:I think the point of NA isnt the age or college or whatever. Its about the issues/themes specific to that time #indiechat -9:42 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @MaganVernon @rlynn_solomon This works too! #indiechat -9:42 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling @MaganVernon Ah, I can see that happening. The market is what it is. #indiechat -9:42 PM Jul 10th, 2012

willentrekin RT @TLT16: But there has always been some NA - think High Fidelity, MTV publishing - they just didn't have a label for it. #indiechat -9:42 PM Jul 10th, 2012

KatGirl_Studio @TLT16 no clue I don't read it in any age group. #indiechat -9:42 PM Jul 10th, 2012

BiblioCrunch RT @willentrekin: RT @laurapauling: "I wouldn't be surprised if agents had a problem with a 19 year old character." #indiechat -9:42 PM Jul 10th, 2012

willentrekin RT @LisaSanchez3: @chel_c_cam It makes no sense, lol! Thanks goodness for small presses and indie publishing! #indiechat -9:42 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @chel_c_cam She's 21 in her last year of college and has a YA voice in 1st person. There you go ;) #indiechat -9:43 PM Jul 10th, 2012

lgkelso @BiblioCrunch http://t.co/hSkoVMgy is a blog dedicated to NA #indiechat -9:43 PM Jul 10th, 2012

TLT16 @KatGirl_Studio @maganvernon The us has MG and YA #indiechat -9:43 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @chel_c_cam You won an EARC of My Paper a heart! Will send it to you after is chat! #indiechat -9:43 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB @willentrekin Good point and great book! #indiechat -9:43 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam @VictoriaSmith76 Exactly! Glad I'm not the only one who saw that. #indiechat -9:43 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam @MaganVernon Happy dance!!!!!! Thank you!!!! #indiechat -9:44 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @KatGirl_Studio Oh Manga, that doesn't get enough play either! #indiechat -9:44 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Froze8 So sad to be missing #indiechat again but I'm not feeling very well today. Spending some time with the family before some reading and sleep -9:44 PM Jul 10th, 2012

KatGirl_Studio @TLT16 yes but in manga teen is 14+ and older teen is 16+ its not the same system at all. #indiechat -9:45 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 #indiechat HBO's Girls is #newadult Heroine has been cut off from her parents. Forced to survive in NYC at 24 with no money. -9:45 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Lisa_Nowak @srjohannes The only "boy parts" I want to write about are lips and maybe biceps. :P #indiechat -9:45 PM Jul 10th, 2012

willentrekin Mind, I don't love "New Adult." Yet another not-so-useful (?) designator. #indiechat -9:45 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @chel_c_cam Wait are talking 50 shades? Yeah, that was totally NA, except she didn't have a backbone. #indiechat Most NA heroines are fierce -9:45 PM Jul 10th, 2012

rlynn_solomon Agreed! RT @Sarah_Nicolas I think the point of NA isn't the age or college. It's about the issues specific to that time in life #indiechat -9:45 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB I want to encourage everyone to use the #NA hashtag and to tag your books NA on Amazon, BN, Smashwords, etc. #indiechat -9:45 PM Jul 10th, 2012

LisaSanchez3 RT @Stacey_WB: I want to encourage everyone to use the #NA hashtag and to tag your books NA on Amazon, BN, Smashwords, etc. #indiechat -9:45 PM Jul 10th, 2012

willentrekin The key is independent publishing allows authors to take risks agents/editors/publishers won't let them take. #indiechat -9:46 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @Lisa_Nowak @srjohannes I never mention boy parts because I can't even write the word. #indiechat -9:46 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam @MaganVernon Haven't read it yet. Don't want to pay for it, so trying to find a way to procure it. #indiechat -9:46 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling I don't think it's about getting the NA term out there but the age group getting recognized. I don't care what it's called. #indiechat -9:46 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon RT @Stacey_WB: I want to encourage everyone to use the #NA hashtag and to tag your books NA on Amazon, BN, Smashwords, etc. #indiechat -9:46 PM Jul 10th, 2012

KatGirl_Studio @Stacey_WB good idea. #indiechat -9:46 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Sarah_Nicolas @saramegibow & @heatherhowland are looking for NA. Melissa Singer at Tor too. Shameless promo of NA contest: http://t.co/slTmNg5n #indiechat -9:46 PM Jul 10th, 2012

CarrieAButler RT @Stacey_WB: I want to encourage everyone to use the #NA hashtag and to tag your books NA on Amazon, BN, Smashwords, etc. #indiechat -9:46 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB @MaganVernon Then you youths should probably never read my books. :P #indiechat -9:46 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam RT @Stacey_WB: I want to encourage everyone to use the #NA hashtag and to tag your books NA on Amazon, BN, Smashwords, etc. #indiechat -9:47 PM Jul 10th, 2012

willentrekin "Don't write that genre. Increase your page count. Change your lead character." Don't hear that when indie. #indiechat -9:47 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @chel_c_cam Ugh, I have it on my Nook app if I can lend it to you I will. #indiechat -9:47 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell @Froze8 feel better! #indiechat -9:47 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Juliana_Haygert Agents @Vickie_Motter and @NovelistLauren accept New Adult too #indiechat -9:47 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB @laurapauling But I think by giving it a name, it helps us form a group, a movement? #indiechat -9:47 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam @MaganVernon Nice! #indiechat -9:47 PM Jul 10th, 2012

BiblioCrunch RT @willentrekin: "Don't write that genre. Increase your page count. Change your lead character." Don't hear that when indie. #indiechat -9:47 PM Jul 10th, 2012

OliviaLynnMusic RT @JonathanGunson: #indiechat This impoverished kickstarter indie got it right: http://t.co/SXdUKTQI Went for $4000, got $90,000 -9:48 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling @Stacey_WB Yes I agree with that. It does need a name. #indiechat -9:48 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @Stacey_WB I'm fine with the ding dong, I just can't say it. I believe I just call it a "bulge" in most of my books #indiechat -9:48 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam RT @Juliana_Haygert: Agents @Vickie_Motter and @NovelistLauren accept New Adult too #indiechat -9:48 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Juliana_Haygert Exactly what I was thinking RT @Stacey_WB: @laurapauling But I think by giving it a name, it helps us form a group, a movement? #indiechat -9:48 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @JessieHarrell @froze8 Ditto! #indiechat -9:48 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB @saramegibow & @heatherhowland are looking for NA. Melissa Singer at Tor too. Shameless promo of NA contest: http://t.co/j5yHje8y #indiechat -9:48 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @Juliana_Haygert @Stacey_WB @laurapauling Yep! #indiechat -9:49 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB @MaganVernon I read that as bugle. #indiechat -9:49 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon Are there any traditionally published New Adult books you've read? Where are they on the shelves? #indiechat -9:50 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Lisa_Nowak @Stacey_WB I can READ it. I just can't write it. :P #indiechat -9:50 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Sarah_Nicolas I don't like "New Adult" term, but heck, I still don't like "Young Adult" either. B&N calls it "Teen" #indiechat -9:50 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Lisa_Nowak @Stacey_WB A beagle? #indiechat -9:50 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell @Stacey_WB @maganvernon hahahahaha! the bugle makes you stand at attention. that works. ;) #indiechat -9:50 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @Stacey_WB I'm going to now call it a "bugle." #indiechat -9:51 PM Jul 10th, 2012

KatGirl_Studio @MaganVernon not that I can think of. #indiechat -9:51 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam @Lisa_Nowak Boggle? #indiechat -9:51 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Juliana_Haygert @MaganVernon I can think of @dpeterfreund 's books #indiechat -9:51 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam Awesome. RT @JessieHarrell: @Stacey_WB @maganvernon hahahahaha! the bugle makes you stand at attention. that works. ;) #indiechat -9:51 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @JessieHarrell @stacey_wb *rewrites every mention of man parts as bugle* #indiechat -9:51 PM Jul 10th, 2012

LornaSuzuki I did too! lol RT @Stacey_WB: @MaganVernon I read that as bugle. #indiechat -9:52 PM Jul 10th, 2012

TLT16 Giving it a subgenre/label helps it be found amongst all of Fiction - which is a large category. Helps readers find their niche. #indiechat -9:52 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB Okay, giveaway #2. Day of Sacrifice Omnibus e-book to the best euphemism for bugle, uh, bulge. #indiechat -9:52 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Juliana_Haygert @Sarah_Nicolas teen is way more appropriate if you ask me #indiechat -9:52 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @MaganVernon Easy Tammara Webber, Because of Low Abbi Gines, Slammed Colleen Hoover. All self pub. All listed Mature YA/ YA #indiechat -9:52 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam I'm rather fond of man bits and family jewels. I also say ____ Jr. #indiechat -9:52 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @Juliana_Haygert @dpeterfreund She has the great secret society girl novels! #indiechat -9:52 PM Jul 10th, 2012

LynnRush @victoriasmith76 @chel_c_cam @Stacey_WB Thanks! Sorry I missed most of the chat (had to go pick up hubby) #indiechat -9:52 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Lisa_Nowak @Stacey_WB Mr. Happy #indiechat -9:52 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam RT @VictoriaSmith76: @MaganVernon Easy Tammara Webber, Because of Low Abbi Gines, Slammed Colleen Hoover. All self pub. #indiechat -9:52 PM Jul 10th, 2012

TLT16 @Stacey_WB Love sack of joy #indiechat -9:52 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Sarah_Nicolas #indiechat RT @angelanleese: @Sarah_Nicolas Now that I know what NA is, I can clearly say I support it's existence. Would have done me good. -9:53 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell RT @Stacey_WB: Okay, giveaway #2. Day of Sacrifice Omnibus e-book to the best euphemism for bugle, uh, bulge. #indiechat -9:53 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon For traditionally published NA I'd go with the Jessica Darling series, my fav. #indiechat -9:53 PM Jul 10th, 2012

CarrieAButler We have an NA rock star in the house! @LynnRush #indiechat -9:53 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 @MaganVernon Traditional: Love Story by Jennifer Echols listed in YA at Barnes and Noble. 19 y/o college freshman #indiechat -9:53 PM Jul 10th, 2012

katmeis @srjohannes Could you define the #NewAdult audience for a newbie? #indiechat -9:53 PM Jul 10th, 2012

overdunne I love Tammara Webber's stuff. Definately fits in the NA category. She calls it Mature YA #indiechat -9:53 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam Throbbing member. Sword of desire. You read romance and you get all kinds of good ones :) #indiechat -9:53 PM Jul 10th, 2012

SummerEllenLane RT @CarrieAButler: We have an NA rock star in the house! @LynnRush #indiechat -9:53 PM Jul 10th, 2012

asgwilli @Juliana_Haygert #indiechat THAT is EXACTLY how I feel!!! -9:54 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon RT @JessieHarrell: RT @Stacey_WB: Okay, giveaway #2. Day of Sacrifice Omnibus e-book to the best euphemism for bugle, uh, bulge. #indiechat -9:54 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell @MaganVernon I don't know about shelves since I e-read, but I think a few are out there. just not called NA yet. #indiechat -9:54 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Sarah_Nicolas @Juliana_Haygert totally agree. and everybody knows what that means too. people outside pub world don't know what "YA" is #indiechat -9:54 PM Jul 10th, 2012

TLT16 @Juliana_Haygert @sarah_nicolas Many libraries call it Teen now. Libraries are the only place to call them ya. #indiechat -9:54 PM Jul 10th, 2012

SummerEllenLane @Sarah_Nicolas I totally agree. Just because a character is college age doesn't mean he or she is in college. #indiechat -9:54 PM Jul 10th, 2012

TLT16 @Juliana_Haygert @sarah_nicolas And teens self identify as teens, so that is the correct term. #indiechat -9:54 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell @chel_c_cam dang - those are some good ones. #indiechat -9:55 PM Jul 10th, 2012

AncientEye @JonathanGunson: #indiechat This impoverished kickstarter indie got it right: http://t.co/V4Zgk06T Went for $4000, got $90,000 #indiechat -9:55 PM Jul 10th, 2012

BiblioCrunch Learned about a new genre today in #indiechat! That's why i love the group. See you all next week! -9:55 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @VictoriaSmith76 Her stuff is very heavy. Definitely New Adult, same with Gayle Foreman's Where She Went #indiechat -9:55 PM Jul 10th, 2012

KatGirl_Studio @TLT16 I know B & N and Amazon use the Teen term because Young adult mucks up the search system. #indiechat -9:56 PM Jul 10th, 2012

chel_c_cam @JessieHarrell Oh, I could go on for days. I collect these things for later use :) #indiechat -9:56 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Froze8 On the new adult concept- I like the idea of reading about characters my age, but YA still has my heart #indiechat -9:56 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Sarah_Nicolas I've said before, I think it will just take one BIG book where the author shouts "THIS IS NA" from the rooftops and boom #indiechat -9:56 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB Okay, @TLT16 wins it with Love sack of joy. That's a new one and I read all sorts of trashy romance novels. I'm DM the code. #indiechat -9:56 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell @MaganVernon Where She Went - never thought of it as NA, but yes! LOVED that book, btw! #indiechat -9:56 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 Follow @NALitChat for regular #newadult twitter discussions starting end of July! @NAAlleyBlog #indiechat -9:56 PM Jul 10th, 2012

JessieHarrell @BiblioCrunch thanks for joining us! #indiechat -9:56 PM Jul 10th, 2012

laurapauling RT @VictoriaSmith76: Follow @NALitChat for regular #newadult twitter discussions starting end of July! @NAAlleyBlog #indiechat -9:56 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MTGReviews @Sarah_Nicolas @Juliana_Haygert I have to explain what YA is on a reg basis. Now to have to explain NA... Wonderful! #indiechat -9:56 PM Jul 10th, 2012

AncientEye RT @Stacey_WB: are looking for NA. Melissa Singer at Tor too. Shameless promo of NA contest: http://t.co/sMHNG7BL #indiechat -9:57 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon Someone asked for a definition of New Adult: Books with characters in the age range between YA and adult is the simple answer #indiechat -9:57 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Juliana_Haygert @Sarah_Nicolas oh, and we all would love to be the author of that book lol #indiechat -9:57 PM Jul 10th, 2012

VictoriaSmith76 RT @BiblioCrunch: Learned about a new genre today in #indiechat! That's why i love the group. See you all next week! -9:57 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MTGReviews @Sarah_Nicolas What if people think they're calling the book "Not Applicable"? ;) #indiechat -9:57 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB @TLT16 I'll DM the code. I am not just a code! #indiechat -9:57 PM Jul 10th, 2012

CarrieAButler @Sarah_Nicolas Hey, I'll be happy to start shouting in March of 2013. *Grins* http://t.co/amcuUmZJ #indiechat #ihavenoshame -9:57 PM Jul 10th, 2012

SummerEllenLane Just came across a new NA author, Shawn Keenan.... #indiechat http://t.co/w8CSocgh -9:58 PM Jul 10th, 2012

MaganVernon @JessieHarrell I didn't even read "If I stay" when I got an ARC of Where She Went. I loved it all on its own. #indiechat -9:58 PM Jul 10th, 2012

AncientEye RT @Sarah_Nicolas: are looking for NA. Melissa Singer at Tor too. Shameless promo of NA contest: http://t.co/sMHNG7BL #indiechat -9:58 PM Jul 10th, 2012

Stacey_WB RT @VictoriaSmith76: Follow @NALitChat for regular #newadult twitter discussions starting end of July! @NAAlleyBlog #indiechat -9:58 PM Jul 10th, 2012